Is it the mycotoxins? How would doctors even know?

So my wife who has been suffering from chronic constipation since we moved here and has tried everything including coffee enemas had taken 3000 mg of Magnesium the other day in 6 hours when I told her to stop. That much Mg should have produced a bowel movement in someone with little bowel tolerance developed.

We started her on Candicid Forte at the suggestion of a member here and she is continuing it and using laxitives when there is nothing on the 3rd day.

I told her to take a laxative by every 2nd day or daily if need be and add Activated Charcoal in attempts to keep the toxins moving.

She was convinced by her mom that she should get a colonoscopy to check for polyps or an obstruction. I told her they wouldnt find anything and I suspect it is the mycotoxins causing all of our problems, but we will do that if it will make you feel better.

The doctor performed the colinoscopy and found nothing. I asked if they could do a urinalysis for mycotoxins. They told me yes and wrote a lab order for a urinalysis but before we took it to the lab I found this online which told me that the medical industry knows little to nothing about mycotoxins:

/www.drweil.com/diet-nutrition/food-safety/is-mycotoxin-urine-testing-worthwhile/

I asked the doctor to clarify if this was a mycotoxin test and she said its a standard urinalysis and it would show if she had infection. We didnt bother with it as I realized it wouldnt be tested for fungus anything and the medical industry doesnt know jack about mycotoxins.

I have been having some of the same symptoms that I had when I moved into the home at the peak of the mold. Also the inflammation has been on an uptick. I suspected we had mold somewhere and found some growing on the back of our dresser and head board. So here we are again and go again.

Although I applied Concrobium again but I know it is failing us. I went back to shocking the bedroom with ozone as I read that it will break down the mycotoxins. I will do the rest of the home tomorrow.

We added C-60 as I also found a Pub Med that indicates it breaks down mycotoxins as well as this:

http://v.ht/C60MOLD

We are on day 3 of C-60.

I will sleep in the ozonated bedroom in about an hour and see how much inflammation I have in the morning and reassess the plan going forward.

The WIFI goes off at night and I really should hard wire the internet but I dont even know if I can get them to turn the WIFI off. The family is not going to be happy having to jack in but I know it is likely making mold defensive and causing it to produce more mycotoxins.

I wonder if any brand of environmental enzymes can tackle our environment? Maybe Sporacidin or some other brand. I dont think the Kleen Free brand works. It seems like the mold eats it right up. How long should it take for these things take to work anyways?

I am glad I have the HEPA filters running non stop but I am not convinced they can remove mycotoxin gasses. Just thought I would share where we are at and give an update. We will get it figured out doctors or not.

ChickenArise said...
So my wife who has been suffering from chronic constipation since we moved here and has tried everything including coffee enemas had taken 3000 mg of Magnesium the other day in 6 hours when I told her to stop. That much Mg should have produced a bowel movement in someone with little bowel tolerance developed.

We started her on Candicid Forte at the suggestion of a member here and she is continuing it and using laxitives when there is nothing on the 3rd day.

I told her to take a laxative by every 2nd day or daily if need be and add Activated Charcoal in attempts to keep the toxins moving.

She was convinced by her mom that she should get a colonoscopy to check for polyps or an obstruction. I told her they wouldnt find anything and I suspect it is the mycotoxins causing all of our problems, but we will do that if it will make you feel better.

The doctor performed the colinoscopy and found nothing. I asked if they could do a urinalysis for mycotoxins. They told me yes and wrote a lab order for a urinalysis but before we took it to the lab I found this online which told me that the medical industry knows little to nothing about mycotoxins:

/bit.ly/2JJUTnd

I asked the doctor to clarify if this was a mycotoxin test and she said its a standard urinalysis and it would show if she had infection. We didnt bother with it as I realized it wouldnt be tested for fungus anything and the medical industry doesnt know jack about mycotoxins.

I have been having some of the same symptoms that I had when I moved into the home at the peak of the mold. Also the inflammation has been on an uptick. I suspected we had mold somewhere and found some growing on the back of our dresser and head board. So here we are again and go again.

Although I applied Concrobium again but I know it is failing us. I went back to shocking the bedroom with ozone as I read that it will break down the mycotoxins. I will do the rest of the home tomorrow.

We added C-60 as I also found a Pub Med that indicates it breaks down mycotoxins as well as this:

/bit.ly/2t3wChQ

We are on day 3 of C-60.

I will sleep in the ozonated bedroom in about an hour and see how much inflammation I have in the morning and reassess the plan going forward.

The WIFI goes off at night and I really should hard wire the internet but I dont even know if I can get them to turn the WIFI off. The family is not going to be happy having to jack in but I know it is likely making mold defensive and causing it to produce more mycotoxins.

I wonder if any brand of environmental enzymes can tackle our environment? Maybe Sporacidin or some other brand. I dont think the Kleen Free brand works. It seems like the mold eats it right up. How long should it take for these things take to work anyways?

I am glad I have the HEPA filters running non stop but I am not convinced they can remove mycotoxin gasses. Just thought I would share where we are at and give an update. We will get it figured out doctors or not.

ChickenArise,

This would almost certainly help Mrs. ChickenArise, if all else fails:

/www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=4020339

I'm sorry for the suffering your family is enduring. I wish you the best.

The Dude

Hi Chicken Arise,

Moving the toxins out are very important! As someone who personally gets backed up often, I can attest to that! In some cases I think constitution is part of it. I kid you not when I was pregnant my son was two weeks late and then we had to induce-long story short I tried EVERYTHING to not have to go to the hospital including castor oil. I had heard horror stories, I waited and waited - Nothing. An entire bottle (over a day) of castor oil and I didn't even poop!

My herbalist/nutritionist had me do Vitamin C to bowel tolerance. She said she had one patient that got up to 50grams (!). That 50 grams did not last long as he titrated down. Mine was I think 9 grams/day at first and then 6grams. That is still a lot!

Here is some more information on that. https://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm

Personally, the advice I was given was to take 1 gram every hour on waking and record it so I knew what my bowel tolerance was. And then I split that up into 3 doses throughout the day. Be sure to check with your physician. But this did certainly help to keep things moving!

~beth

Sorry about the links. I will pay more attention to shortening longer ones in the future. All very good points and solutions we can put into the rotation again. We have plenty of Himalayan Salt and asorbic acid both of which are either inert or maybe even healthy at higher doses but relatively safe nonetheless.

As for the testing of Mycotoxins, I kind of already know we will test positive and high. What I would be more interested in is what was the medical industrial complexe's solution for testing high on a mycotoxin test? I could venture that I already know the inadequate solutions that would follow the expensive testing.

Yes moving out has to go on the list of possible solutions. We could rent this place out while using that money to pay rent elsewhere. To be honest it feels quite terrible inside to have thoughts of 'me first' and the next tenant be darned that the place is contaminated. That is not the type of person I really am. I am hoping that I will figure out a decontamination solution instead for all our sakes.

There are no mold remediation companies out here unless we start one. The pro air scrubbers are not unfairly priced but it is shipping where we will end up paying out the nose as some of these units are up to 40 lbs. I paid close to $300 in shipping for the 3 large HEPA filter units. Its the cost of doing business here. I am not ruling anything out though but rather thinking out loud.

My move to Panama wasnt an early retirement decision but a move to preserve cash while we figured out how to make more. A gutsy move that some could rightly call insanity but it was under very complex circumstances.

Little did I know that I would be walking into a mold and mycotoxin nightmare that would bleed us as much as it did, but enough already. Crying about money is not a solution.

I consider myself fortunate to have gained this much knowledge about the situation to date and make enough progress in my illness to be able to think straight. That in itself is amazing given the fact that there was likely continuous re-exposure to these toxins the whole time.

Although I am still in the catch 22 of spend money now or spend even more on health later.

Apologies for my outburst.

Just one of those things.

Blessings all around.

WalkingbyFaith said...
ChickenArise,

Did your wife have an xray or CT scan to check for bowel blockage? Enemas are not producing any bowel movements either? If the answer to both is yes, then maybe it is mycotoxins in her gut. It could also be from herxing. If she's doing a bunch of new stuff that kills anything or is moving toxins, that could be why. I've had periods when my intestines went into lockdown mode. It was like my intestines were being squeezed. I guess it was from inflammation.


Don't bother with testing. You know mold is there, so mycotoxins are too.

I am so sorry. Please take care of yourself and your family. Maybe you can all stay somewhere else for a bit, get away from the mold.

When you do leave their, be extremely careful about what you take with you when you leave. Cross contamination is very real, and there is no concensus among experts or mold survivors as to what can truly be decontaminated and what cannot. If the mold is severe or the person/people are severely sick, it may be best to take nothing with you. Do your research.

Maybe when you recover, you can start that much needed mold remediation company or teach some able bodied people how to do it safely and effectively.

Thanks for the suggestions. We will take them to heart. Never dreamed I would learn so much about mold and yet it seems there are no experts in this field as there is just to much unkonwn and to learn.

Opigirl: Thank You too

NotQuiteAntonio: You didnt say anything that you need to apologize for and I was by no means inferring that you did. We all get frustrated and yet maybe that is what motivates us.

does the concrobium have a powerful scent to it?

can you apply it in a room and then hang out there? or do you have to wait for the smell to subside?

No it doesnt have a powerful scent. It will fog up the room pretty good for 20 minutes after you use the fogger. It is non toxic and I handle it ok, but you probably should hang out in another room for a bit after applying. If you have HEPA filters running, turn them off for an hour.