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Posted 7/14/2018 5:08 AM (GMT 0)
I started red really slow on this. 2 drops one day 1 the 2nd, 2 drops, one drop. On the one drop days I took 1 drop biocidin.
Well increased to 2 drops houttuynia each day and seems like nerve symptoms increased. In location and number.
Could this be related?

Only other thing I've done differently is added sauerkraut. I dont think I have histamine issues. I had this same product over a year ago but was told to stop bc of candida. I still have candida and a different lyme doc said it'd be ok.

I feel like I'll never be able to Increase anything. I will be starting an NRF2 activator soon as my doc said before boosting my immune sys may work better since I had seemed sensitive to some herbs
Posted 7/14/2018 10:37 AM (GMT 0)
When herxing from just a few drops I would try going every other day to start and only a few drops.

Then you could research using binders such as activated charcoal and /or zeobind to help take up the toxins.

It could also be that you have a high bacteria load.

It could be that your just more sensitive to some herbals.

When I have had this same issue , as long as it wasn't an allergic reaction I just went slower and sometimes I was able to proceed with building up dosages slowly.

Please check for side effects and contradictions as I am not an medical expert.

Take care
Posted 7/14/2018 8:00 PM (GMT 0)
Houttuynia was one of the strongest herbs I used. I did have a strong reaction to it. Take it a day at a time. I think at some point most of us treating this illness feel helpless and lost. Hang in there and keep track of your symptoms!

~beth
Posted 7/15/2018 1:06 AM (GMT 0)
I am very sensitive, too.

If I remember right, both IHA formula (houttuynia) and sida acuta gave me some weird neuro symptoms when started out - electrical pains in the head, burning scalp, stabbing pains in foot bone, muscle twitch in one shoulder, etc.
Posted 7/15/2018 1:59 AM (GMT 0)
Proceed with caution, at 10 drops twice daily it made me lose my ability to sleep for months...even with 5mg lunesta or belsamra, only thing that saved me was 30 days azithromycin 250mg to put that genie back in the bottle. Morale of the story: if you have daily responsibilities e.g. Employment, be very careful. Ive not had this reaction to anything else before or since.

It brought out severe bart symptoms, red scratch rash, sore throat, insomnia,bad knots in quad muscles (mag glycinate was godsend)

Doors12
Posted 7/15/2018 2:18 AM (GMT 0)
Well I started at one drop every other day. Then went to I think one drop every day. Then one drop one day, 2 the next, etc. On the days I take one drop, I took one drop of Biocidin.

Then I tried increasing the Biocidin to 2 drops every other day I think. I felt a little bad but (as usual) I dont know if its the herb or just me. But I still went back to one drop.

I started the Biocidin 12/28 of 2017.
I started the Houtt 3/11 2018. So each, Ive been on months. I go super slow.

I take 2 caps act. charcoal each night an hour after i finish everything. Been doing that for months.

Just dont know how much slower I can go. sad
Posted 7/15/2018 7:10 AM (GMT 0)
I'm wondering if the houttuynia (bart herb) is also causing your jaw issue...(i read your other post)

Is it a bartonella herx?

Have you tried lymph massage?

You could try these - a couple times per day. It may not start helping right away...so give it a few days.


/www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA-wi0d7-Ro

I used to do them when I was first diagnosed.
Posted 7/16/2018 6:23 AM (GMT 0)
Not tried lymph massage in the past b/c I didnt think I had any issues there.

And it hurts to touch this part of my jaw, so dunno how they'd massage it.

I've been on the houttyina since March I think though.
Posted 7/19/2018 3:25 AM (GMT 0)
I herxed from one drop of Houttuynia and am now down to putting one drop in a glass of water and taking 2 sips a day. (then keeping in fridge)

It definitely is strong and adding binders as mentioned by goshawk is important to mop up the toxins.
Posted 7/20/2018 5:05 AM (GMT 0)
Is 2 caps of act. charcoal enough? I've been doing that for about 2 years.
Posted 7/20/2018 9:53 AM (GMT 0)
It depends on the mg of the capsules. I take 5 capsules of activated charcoal with plenty of water.
My capsules are 280 mg.



I will say that for me I have found the Zeobind works better.
Posted 7/21/2018 5:36 AM (GMT 0)
My caps are 560 each. So I take over 1000 mg an hour after all my food and supps.
Posted 7/21/2018 10:05 AM (GMT 0)
I'd wait longer than an hour so it doesn't bode me supplements. I do middle of night
Posted 7/24/2018 5:15 AM (GMT 0)
Well, thing is it's usually 3-4 am after waiting an hour after taking everything. so I cannot wait really longer than that.
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