Bee Venom Therapy

Impeccable timing. I am just about to get started with this. We had bumped up an older bvt thread the other day. It must have just fallen off the first page.

A few of our other members swear by it.

I just joined Lobel's bvt for lyme fb page. I voiced my concern of how heavily neurological my symptoms were and that Dr J in DC said I need to treat aggressively with iv abx asap. So I was afraid something as simple as bee stings wouldn't get me better. Ellie, her self responded saying that bvt will work better than any abx therapy.

I have been researching a lot about bvt. And I have yet to come across an unsuccessful story. It gives me a lot of hope.

lyme44 said...
Best of luck Hoagie. I met Ellie Lobel 2-1/2 years ago at a Lyme meeting and that's what convinced me to try it. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

I don't know how to PM on this forum, if we even can.

I would like to pick your brain regarding Bartonella. Did you address it primarily with bvt? Or did you take something with it?

I know Ellie says it should be a monotherapy for lyme and all coinfections. But I've read where others say it's not active against bart. Bartonella is my primary infection.

lyme44 said...
I haven't posted on here in a few years. I spent 3 years on oral and IV ABX and other natural and holistic therapies without much improvement. I've spent the last 27 months stinging with live bees and no ABX. I am at 3,500 stings and my improvement has been remarkable. I am at 85-90% well. My symptoms are still present but very transient and not as severe. I haven't missed a day of work in over a year. The treatment is very easy to do and essentially free if you become a beekeeper or network with local beekeepers. I have about another year to go on the protocol and I can see full cure in my future.
Most of you with Lyme, babesia,etc have been through the medical and financial ringer with this sinister disease. I urge anyone still struggling to look into BVT for Lyme disease. It's saving my life.

Interesting this is the first I heard about this. Whats the science behind it?

I'm up for a lot of treatments but I personally find getting stung by a bee very painful.

Is there a good article you can forward a link to that sums it up?

Mark

lyme44 said...
Go to the Facebook group Bee Venom Therapy for Lyme disease (Ellie Lobel's Group). The protocol is published there along with a scientific journal published last November on the effectiveness of melittin eradicating the burgdorferi bacteria. It's the melittin that is an antibiotic, antifungal and anti inflammatory that does the magic. Yes it hurts, but after years of wrecking your gut or putting a pic line into your heart for direct infusion, bee stings are nothing. And you do get used to it. Everything you'll need is on that site.

Thanks !!

But what about people who have severe allergic rectiins vrom bee stings?

Also, Ive got numbness & itching from an injection done May 5th> thats just ONE teeny tiny needle puncture.

I get mild pain sometimes just from my clothing touching my skin...cannot even imagine getting stung by bees ON PURPOSE!

Glad it works for all y'all

Can you please copy paste the protocol here in this thread? I don't have a facebook account. Thank you.

Also did you ever get a flu-like reaction 12-24 hours after a BVT session that only lasted like a day? What could that be? Is that the BVT breaking up biofilms?

I'm talking about this:
/www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?r=q&f=30&m=4039772

Post Edited (insomniaaa) : 7/24/2018 12:02:38 AM (GMT-6)

insomniaaa said...
Can you please copy paste the protocol here in this thread? I don't have a facebook account. Thank you.

Also did you ever get a flu-like reaction 12-24 hours after a BVT session that only lasted like a day? What could that be? Is that the BVT breaking up biofilms?

I'm talking about this:
/www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?r=q&f=30&m=4039772[/quote

Sorry. But just like this group it’s a closed group. You would need to join Facebook and ask to join to get access to the information. Yes. The mellitten breaks up biofilm and kills the bacteria causing a herx

Post Edited (lyme44) : 7/24/2018 7:00:00 AM (GMT-6)

Try this.
http://www.mdpi.com/2079-6382/6/4/31

thanks for posting your success lyme44 , there is a bvt thread on lymenet ..it would mean a lot to posterity if you could post your experience there ?

lyme44,

You keep saying it's a commitment. Can you explain?

If you don't like it or want to keep doing it, can you not stop?

Why do you have to continue treatment for so long?

The protocol calls for building up to 10 stings 3 times a week. It took me 8 weeks to get to 10 stings. It’s a slow process to adapt your body and not hurt yourself. And then sting at 10 stings 3 times a week for 2-3 years. It takes that long because they are sneaky ******s and they hide in your body and in biofilms. It’s not unlike being on antibiotics. You keep the venom in your blood long enough, all of the bacteria will come out sooner or later and be eradicated. In fact it’s the exact same premise as ABX only none of the side effects. A time and endurance commitment to be sure. But more effective than any other treatment I’ve endured. I’m so highly functioning I’ll not stop until I am 100%. If I had to do it for the rest of my life I would. I know it sounds crazy. But shoveling 23 pills into your mouth everyday for 3 years and pumping toxic IVs into my heart for 6 months and not getting well was crazier.

This is a very interesting Q&A type deal Ellie gave in Ohio 2 years ago.

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB_Yc_QGezs