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Finding what works for sleep is pretty awesome. I get REM the last two years and even dreams.

"I tracked my sleep last night to find that I likely completed 4 sleep cycles!"
-can you explain how you figured this out?
-Sleep cycles? and 4 of them?
-Some smart phone sensor (seen these online)?

That is fabulous! It's too funny, because I just tried l-ornithine for the first time last night. How are you dosing it? only at night? I've been herxing like crazy on my current protocol, and I'm looking for anything that can help with detox and sleep (insomnia is often a herx symptom for me).

Thanks Sandyfeet! That's helpful to hear how you dose it. And I'll keep you posted. I also have glycine which I haven't tried, I'll probably introduce that one as well. The herxes are super strong, I'm having to take several day breaks from killing agents to recover.

But I'm hoping if I can keep doing a lot of detoxing it will help increase my margins and help me recover more quickly. I'm experimenting and adding in new things.

With the herxing I'm usually able to manage symptom flare the first 3-5 days but then all of a sudden I get sharp increase in air hunger, anxiety, and insomnia. The air hunger is absolutely suffocating, and when it gets bad it sharply increases my anxiety, bit of a vicious loop. It's super uncomfortable. I just try to listen to my body, when it gets that bad I have to take a break. It's not ideal, but it's the only way I can manage these therapies, and I really do want to try to stick with this protocol because it is very effective. I feel like I've exhausted a lot of treatment options, so finding something super effective like this makes me want to find a way to make it work, even if I have to improvise.

That's interesting about the diet too. I think this stuff can take a lot of trial and error, each of us may require different things and respond differently. For a long time I found being vegan helpful (and avoiding refined sugars, processed foods, dairy). As I've felt better I've opened it up to fish and eggs, especially this last year as I've started doing heavier power-lifting (not that meat is necessary but it's frankly just more convenient), but I still try to eat a mostly plant-based diet.

Anyhow, thank you for sharing your experience and insights!

thank you for posting it i have tried it the last two nights and i have noticed an improvement - my brain is feeling alot calmer - and it is helping to go off to sleep only getting about 4 hours though at the moment two days in just wondering how much people take and what time do people take it?

thanks sandyfeet- tried the 6tabs last night didnt work for me i went from being very tired to.almost hyper 😣 my head feels buzzy today so i wonder does it get the amonia moving- did you have anything similar to that it was my third night taking them! glad they are working so well for you id say its a great feeling getting a normal nights sleep! im going to stick with them and hopefully get a good result ( maybe i need to try the combination of things you use!)

Nice, so you have had strong responses to crypto before? With the baths, I think we all respond differently! I was surprised to have such a response tbh. And it is probably a testament to high toxic load in my body, amplified from strong killing.

What pathogens do you think isatis is helping target? it seems this herb also raises immune function. I have some laying around here, may have to reexplore taking it at some point.

Insomnia used to be a core symptom for me. In fact it's in hindsight as I've gotten better and improved a lot of symptoms that I can get better tell what was going on. When I herx now I can see what my main symptoms really are because they pop up so clearly, and the main ones that dovetail together with my babesia herx are insomnia, air hunger, anxiety, sweats, headaches. This leads me to think the babesia affects my autonomic nervous system and that's why the symptoms seem to wax wane so closely together.

Other ideas for you: diamataceous earth. I don't hear about that one too often but it seems like it can be a good binder.

stickersteve said...
I noticed a few posts here in reference to air hunger. of all the symptoms I have, that one never goes away and I have had it for over 30 years. does anyone know what causes it and found anything that helps. If I could just get relief from that one symptom I would be satisfied.

Several different things can cause air hunger, but often times when it comes to these infections it is a pretty hallmark babesia symptom. What kind of other symptoms do you have or have you had? I'd always carefully look at babesia as the likeliest potential candidate. Have you treated for babesia? Buhner lists a couple other potential causes: buhnerhealinglyme.com/symptoms/air-hunger-2/

Effective treatments over time for babesia is what has reduced that symptom for me, it used to be so constant and pervasive. Now it really only gets bad when I treat babesia aggressively.

I think it is a symptom caused by babesia messing with the autonomic nervous system. At least that's how it seems to work in my case. Wayne Anderson has some interesting insights on it imo: conniestrasheim.org/blog/2017/3/6/a-deep-look-at-the-symptoms-of-six-major-lyme-related-infections

on the morning grogginess, I just restarted my thryroid meds, and it helped a lot.

so, how are you on thyroid levels?