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As you have mentioned, people with auto immune disorders tend to set off certain positives within the Western Blot test & ELISA tests. So this leaves one in a bit of a dilemma. Because It is critical to start treatment of ms as soon as possible it puts one in quite the predicament as to what treatment path to start.


http://buhnerhealinglyme.com/herbs/cats-claw-autoimmunity-and-hashimotos-thyroiditis/
The bacteria(Lyme) in fact create and control a form of autoimmunity.


Do anyone know a parasite cleanse that will not stimulate/strengthen the immune system? If u can list a few parasite cleanse i can google its ingredients.

Can anyone tell the type of doctor(a specialist?) i should visit to get a colon and parasite cleanse?

What other co-infection can create and control a form of autoimmunity?
The bacteria(Lyme) in fact create and control a form of autoimmunity.

If i have lyme(have not tested for it yet) then it create and control a form of autoimmunity and i do a ANA test for autoimmune disease and the result is positive would that mean it is a false-positive?

Anyone ever do a lyme western blot at igenex and was tested positive for a autoimmune disease/disorder?

ty for replies

Carib_Lyme said...
https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=32&m=3413301
As you have mentioned, people with auto immune disorders tend to set off certain positives within the Western Blot test & ELISA tests. So this leaves one in a bit of a dilemma. Because It is critical to start treatment of ms as soon as possible it puts one in quite the predicament as to what treatment path to start.


http://buhnerhealinglyme.com/herbs/cats-claw-autoimmunity-and-hashimotos-thyroiditis/
The bacteria(Lyme) in fact create and control a form of autoimmunity.


Do anyone know a parasite cleanse that will not stimulate/strengthen the immune system? If u can list a few parasite cleanse i can google its ingredients.

Can anyone tell the type of doctor(a specialist?) i should visit to get a colon and parasite cleanse?

What other co-infection can create and control a form of autoimmunity?
The bacteria(Lyme) in fact create and control a form of autoimmunity.

If i have lyme(have not tested for it yet) then it create and control a form of autoimmunity and i do a ANA test for autoimmune disease and the result is positive would that mean it is a false-positive?

Anyone ever do a lyme western blot at igenex and was tested positive for a autoimmune disease/disorder?

ty for replies

”As you have mentioned, people with auto immune disorders tend to set off certain positives within the Western Blot test & ELISA tests. So this leaves one in a bit of a dilemma. Because It is critical to start treatment of ms as soon as possible it puts one in quite the predicament as to what treatment path to start.”

The reason they get positive WB is because they have Lyme disease.
Lyme can cause autoimmune tests/markers to be positive.

There have been members on this forum who had positive ANA due to lyme and coinfections.

Treat the infections and the positive ANA goes away.

Girlie
If i tested positive for autoimmune disease/disorder and do not have lyme/co-infections. Then i went to test for lyme and co-infection with igenex or Western Blot test & ELISA tests and its positive, do that mean i don't have lyme or co-infection?

I would like to know what the co-infections are that cause the positive ANA result.
I will check the forum.

How long will it take for the positive ANA to go away?

My ms and auto immune was caused mostly by bartonella ...i had a total of 9 pathogens ,2 in the gut ....i used bvt and rife and herbs . My nerves are healing ,stopped the wasting and gaining strength everyday. There is hope ...a guy in az does ok testing ...also i have a hook to dr iberhiem in s.a.

My dads 3 parasites was hit hard by "brendas parasite recipe on real food rebel" artmisia annua ,clove and other usuals ...its pretty mellow ...
If its reving up inflammatory response i used iv curcumin and rocephin to ease. Some buhner herbs may help tone it down ...homeopathy and nsp helped to reduce response. ..when you get the offending intracellular bug load down the body should calm down also....

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 10/21/2018 7:47:42 PM (GMT-6)

rustypliers said...
Rethinking the theory of Autoimmunity by Amy Proal Phd.

Amy Proal graduated from Georgetown University in 2005 with a degree in biology. While at Georgetown she wrote her senior thesis on the role of infectious agents in the disease ME/CFS. In 2012, she obtained a PhD in microbiology from Murdoch University in Australia.

http://microbeminded.com/2018/04/16/re-thinking-the-theory-of-autoimmunity-in-the-era-of-the-microbiome/

thx for the info, it was a good read.

bluelyme said...
My ms and auto immune was caused mostly by bartonella ...i had a total of 9 pathogens ,2 in the gut ....i used bvt and rife and herbs . My nerves are healing ,stopped the wasting and gaining strength everyday. There is hope ...a guy in az does ok testing ...also i have a hook to dr iberhiem in s.a.

My dads 3 parasites was hit hard by "brendas parasite recipe on real food rebel" artmisia annua ,clove and other usuals ...its pretty mellow ...
If its reving up inflammatory response i used iv curcumin and rocephin to ease. Some buhner herbs may help tone it down ...homeopathy and nsp helped to reduce response. ..when you get the offending intracellular bug load down the body should calm down also....

What is bvt?
I wanted to use brenda parasite cleanse but i think that will stimulate the immune system too much so i am looking for one that will not stimulate the immune system.

So bvt regulates th1 and th2 autoimmune markers ....

I saw ascaris after using artminisin then got stool (unfrozen sample) testing out of the states .which showed a mexican passanger giardia ...which can cause autoimmune problems

Check out dr jay davidsons mimosa pudica ...he had a sml formula.
I like blesed herbs cleanses .they re gentle .
Things that helped me were neem andrographis, arminisin, alinia, and medical propolis and rife . If you kill the bug the 'auto immunity ' will stop.

A colonic is a flush with water. .. a good start...they may point you to a alternative parasite naturopath. I would avoid gi specialist ,regular docs and ppi and western meds like the plague.

Consider this guy i have a guy too
https://www.parasitetesting.com/test