shoulders under attack

I have the same issue. Are you doing any Lyme treatment? I just started my first antibiotics protocol from an LLMD and am praying it helps. Sending you good vibes.

Began symptoms in April . Told my doc I had picked off DOZENS of ticks and I surely had Lyme. She refused to treat since both (el-cheapo) tests came back negative.
Lyme doc too booked to see me, I managed to snag a December slot back in July!!
Began seeing a ND in August who has me on Lyme nosodes and a plethora of other natural treatments.
Also positive for babesia. Iginex test found those in August.
I sure hope your own treatment goes better than mine, thanks for the post, hearts.

craveslaughter said...
Girlie, I am sooooo ready for that even though my chiro says nothing would show up since it is Lyme-attacked muscles. Claims he sees this often. But even if nothing shows, at least I will have tried.... I asked on my first visit.

It likely is lyme affecting your muscles - but what if it has resulted in a tear in your ligaments or tendons...etc?

I had frozen shoulder (left) and although it’s not frozen anymore, (have full ROM now) - I still have bad nerve pain. It really affected my left shoulder blade.
I also had a very sore right shoulder (the top) - but it’s about 90% better now.

Treatment and time to heal should resolve your issues if it is from lyme causing inflammation.

I had that in both shoulders. Was tendons and muscles in both- more collectively called the rotator cuff which is seven tendons. Keep in mind, tendons are the ends of muscles.

This was years ago and I was not treating for lyme, so I had the typical ultra sound "thingy" your getting, plus NSAIDS (which wrecked my gut), a few cortisone shots and sling. They never completely healed till 25 years later after lyme treatment (recently). They eventually worked again back then but with range of motion issues and clicking sounds.

What I now know works is:
- treating lyme
- driving in magnesium cream/gel with topical DMSO
- Active Release Technique done on shoulders from a chiro or PT who does this
-Learning Trigger point therapy myself

I can do anything and everything now as far as shoulders are concerned.

Drs did nothing positive for my shoulders, we need to be our own Drs, with internet and forums, its way easier now. I know more than Drs do as far as shoulders, pathetic isnt it?

Muscular-wise, I pretty much rebuilt my whole body starting 10 years ago from self learned muscle release techniques followed by my own custom workout/rebuild plan from self study. Completely changed my life when modern medical failed me 80% of the time. Not exaggerating here at all, they helped me about 20%. Lots of wasted money, tried many techniques, injections, dry needling ect. In 15 years I spent about 10K on PTs , chiros, massage, ortho Drs. Very little help from them vs what I learned and did for myself for free from books and online. The actual medical Drs and "Orthos" was where I wasted the most money on this, they know very little to NOTHING in fixing body pain unless you broke a bone.

What did help was from chiros: Active Release Technique and to some extent , Graston. These only worked from some chiros, the ones who had strong arms/hands to do the work properly (strong men). I learned from this and eventually did my own every day.

Now im working a little more on neck and upper back- they are all strung together with overlapping muscles and fascia system.

I might actually try NUCCA- a certain chiro technique that aligns the head/upper neck Atlas (?) without cracking your joints. This is supposed to align the reast of the spine. Reg chiro failed at this, so I might see how this goes. Its just more $ right?

Atlas was ok def not curative would waste the $ ....i got a moma roller and bvt got rid of all shoulder pain....btw sleeping on the heatingnpad may not be good for emf exposure or pathogen replication according to klinghardt...

Lil lathed japonese back roller designed by doc, 2 lumps on muscles and open space on spine to allow for it to realign...
This other amazing chiro taught me his technique with a small wall or carpeted 2x4 in cervical thorasic area where he uses a cupped hand and kung fu's ones elbows and spine releases standing ...freakin amazing ...


Shoulders tho- hands down was 8 bees did the trick ...not even 3 ozone injections did the trick ...even opposite: seeming to piss bugs off that were eating the collagen cartilidge etc ....fish oil and glucosamine helps

My old standby is to take that 6in roller lay vertically like a jaguar on a branch and crucify arms while pranic breathing then lift jaw and get that c5 /c6 that bugs so...awww yea

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 11/1/2018 2:49:29 AM (GMT-6)

Ya teach called it "surround the dragon" ..bee many months into bvt b4 attempting btw! I made this mix of boswelia powder in dmso the put frankenscence oil then swabbed the dmso mix helps inflammation fast...dont burnyour skin tho ...ooo was good on joints with carrier.

Speaking from personal experience and mostly failed PT care, the first step in tissue health is all about circulation or promoting it, and lymies seem to be deficient in this.

If it is lyme related, traditional Physical Therapy wont be nearly as effective as it should and sometimes might not help at all. Wasted thousands on this approach before I learned, but its still worth a try, just don't be surprised if there is no to minimal improvement. For those in which this worked, you have no idea how lucky you are and possibly weren't that bad in the first place.

The PT issue: Many PT's work in clinics with "cookie cutter" PT plans which are a 90% waste of time for many lyme patients as it does not address the real issue.

Lyme creates small changes to the muscle, nervousness system and fascia not seen by PT's general public clientele. The tissues become "toxified" to some extent, and nerves might not work right, which is why I always mention manually increasing circulation via self massage tools such as a firm bumpy fitness roller, lacrosse and golf balls. I self learned this dealing with soft tissue pain correction for 15 years.

*Bottom line: circulation feeds tissue. If your body can't circulate efficiently, manually help it and watch it heal.*

My driven desire to look further into this was fueled by a rather sharp "out of the box thinking", recent graduate, occupational hand therapist who introduced me to the Trigger Point Therapy Workbook. She said "you need to learn this whole book and do it, because there are not enough appointments for anyone to fix your whole body". This was during lyme, but before treatment. That led me to a whole new world of other therapies too. Figured out some of my own self "techniques" of manual therapy that otherwise required someone else to do it (the clinician). Besides eliminating time for appointments, this huge savings easily pays for better, more healthful groceries.

In order to find an effective non "cookie cutter" PT, local online reviews helps a lot, or even any local lyme groups might know a hands on PT who also understands Fascia. There are many chiros that use manual therapy techniques beyond "cracking joints" to. Again, online review will mention what they do. Tight Fascia cannot be ignored. Many with body pain have this and never even heard of it before. Its the white "netting" between muscle and the fatty layer under skin- can see this in skin on chicken meat. Its what holds your body together.

Also beware some "fascia only" (100% John Barnes Myofascial Release trained) clinicians are so focused on that that they ignore muscle and muscle ends (tendons). The whole combination works together and needs to be treated as one. Muscles, fascia anmd tendons. When this is right, there is equal balance on joints, thus eliminates need for traditional chiropractic joint "re-setting". Soft tissue issues can create joint misalignment.

For the lucky ones, tick illness treatment is some times all that is needed for soft tissue healing. If not, the above can promote correct tissue health.

Another thing: The longer you had this, or the more physical you were with it can determine soft tissue state. In long term cases Muscle knotting and adhesion can happen in which case traditional PT cannot help. These areas need manual cross friction and pressure point treatment with tools stated above. Following said treatment, topical natural anti-inflammatories followed by DMSO as a driver offers noticeable improvement. Once said area is pliable again, then, and only then will restrengthening (PT or Gym) have a positive effect since you cannot effectively strengthen muscle that is in a state of un-circulated knots or adhesions..

I was just outside, its cooling off out there today. (haha bad pun).

Post Edited (astroman) : 11/4/2018 10:11:34 AM (GMT-7)

Girlie said...

astroman said...
I was just outside, it cooling off out there today.

Winter weather already?

Its like wet, cool November started in mid September this year. We had no nice fall.

Post Edited (astroman) : 11/4/2018 10:14:36 AM (GMT-7)

It would prob be easier to comprehend if it were in bullet point structure vs paragraph form.

Keep in mind, I'm retaining / restrengthening the whole body which is a huge improvement over just relieving pain especially as one ages. What I did should be easier for people the less time they were like this and/or/are just plain younger in age (20's to 40).

After releasing and re-building my whole muscular system, Id say the neck is the most difficult area.

Some "PT types" do hands on work with the neck muscles and some freak out due to the large arteries. Ive carefully done limited work there but will consult a certain place again that knew what they were doing in the past. I have a neck weight too but admittedly hate using the thing. Conventional chiro neck cracking resets the joint temporarily until the tight muscles pull said joints out of alignment again repeating the chiro / clientele profit circle.

I also go to a gym, its more motivating and i like the cable machines vs home weights. If I were to invest in home equipment, I get a used Bowflex or something similar. That said, you still need to release during or before rebuilding/restrengthening. This is why fibro people say they cant workout, they know little about muscle release, no one told them.

Remember- releasing is not the same as stretching. Strength training stiff, nutrient starving muscles can make them worse. Trainers at gyms don't realize this since the majority of their clientele are not stiff as a board. PT's should know this, but most do not. And why are so many PT's out of shape? Most preach / practice little about body health and are concentrated on area specific repair - its only a job to some of them.

Anyway, hope this help some people.