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Posted 8/18/2018 7:20 PM (GMT 0)
Hey everyone!!
Happy Saturday to you all! I’m on my way to celebrate my 5th wedding anniversary. While I’m in the car doing nothing I figured I’d ask ya a question lol.

So I’m June I saw a biological dentist. Drove 2 hours to see him! I like him a lot. He has this crazy machine that tests pressure points and it tells you all my toxicity. (I honestly can’t explain it lol. It’s a screen, then he has me hold some metal thing in one hand, and then with the other hand he has this pen like thing that he puts on my pressure points on my hand). It’s kinda cool. Ok anyways, so it came up that I’m a toxic mess lol. So in June he gave me a chemical detox with homeopathic stuff. Now I’m detoxing pesticides.

The next step is heavy metals. And I have 4 amalgams he wants to safely remove. Not gonna lie I’ve been wanting them out for a long long time. They can’t be good!
I’m waiting to see the cost. What can I expect from this?? Anyone have any experience with it??

Thanx all
Posted 8/18/2018 7:35 PM (GMT 0)
I had two removed/replaced a year ago - by a regular dentist.

I did charcoal right before my appt and again after.

I didn’t feel any worse after.


With a bio dentist you should get nasal oxygen during removal.
(So you don’t breathe in the mercury fumes)
Also a dental dam is standard with all dentists to catch particles.
Posted 8/18/2018 8:39 PM (GMT 0)
mine was removed with this vaccum device and a high dose vitc iv drip....dr k say mercury suppresses lyme, was a accepted treatment for syphilis, but done wrong it can make one very very sick
Posted 8/18/2018 8:45 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah that’s why when they call I’m gonna ask exactly what they do step by step!!
Posted 8/18/2018 8:58 PM (GMT 0)

physedgirl09 said...
Yeah that’s why when they call I’m gonna ask exactly what they do step by step!!

If magoo sees this - he will fill you in on all the details.


You can go to this site for information:


/iaomt.org
Posted 8/18/2018 9:18 PM (GMT 0)
Thanx guys.. I actually just spoke to a woman in my lyme support group who saw him and had hers removed. She said he’s totally safe and uses the dam and the breathing thing and detoxes before and after. So we shall she. Hopefully magoo sees this!
Posted 8/18/2018 9:20 PM (GMT 0)

physedgirl09 said...
Thanx guys.. I actually just spoke to a woman in my lyme support group who saw him and had hers removed. She said he’s totally safe and uses the dam and the breathing thing and detoxes before and after. So we shall she. Hopefully magoo sees this!


All dentists use the rubber dam now....the oxygen through the nose is the biggie. (mine didn't offer that) so I was sucking back the fumes.. cry
Posted 8/18/2018 10:04 PM (GMT 0)
I just had all mine removed by a SMART certified biological dentist. I had 8 teeth involved - 4 on the left, 4 on the right. Some teeth had more than one filling. Done in 2 visits, 1 month apart. Total cost was around $5,600. This was done in South Carolina.

I was very concerned that the whole ordeal would make me feel worse, but so far, I'm okay. Last ones came out 5 weeks ago.

Overall, it was not as bad as I feared but was still quite uncomfortable. Four of the fillings had to be replaced with onlays, which involved getting temporary onlays to start and returning later to have permanent ones put in.

Each visit took about 2 hours. The first visit, I got squirmy and slightly panicky about halfway through, but after a quick break, I was okay. At the second visit, I got "shocked" with one of the numbing shots, which felt like my tongue got stuck with the needle. It hurt. I jumped and hollered and my tongue went numb. Thankfully, I had no permanent nerve damage from it.

I had compatibility testing done with Biocomp Lab prior to replacement. I was given the option of purchasing supplements for detox and immune support (which I declined) to use prior to and for a few months after removals. During removals, I was given all the protective gear and oxygen and was given a slurry of charcoal and chlorella to swallow before and after.

I have no regrets. I do have sensitivity pain when chewing in one area that I've already talked to the dentist about. He did something to try to make it better, but it still isn't right. I have one final appointnent next week. Hopefully it is fixable. I also have noticed more hot/cold sensitivity, which I didn't have before. Also, most of my molars had fillings, and the composites and onlays feel quite different from the amalgams and my natural teeth. Now the surface is more flat, and it is harder to chew because the teeth don't grip and tear food as well.

I have not done anything yet for chelation. I have been on Pectasol-C for over a year and started Pectaclear 2 months ago. Those are both supposed to slowly and safely detox metals. I have not had any kind of heavy metals testing done. As for chelation, I am inclined to heed Andy Cutler's warnings. Not sure if and when I will embark on chelation. It seems a dangerous, tedious, long-term commitment.

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 8/18/2018 4:13:17 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/18/2018 11:11 PM (GMT 0)
WBF - when I had my two amalgams replaced, I had sensitivity when biting down ...so I decided to baby that side for awhile...for a few weeks I would chew mostly on my left side and only chew soft foods on the right.

At about two months in, the sensitivity went away.


I was worried that the root was irritated and I did not want a root canal...so I gave it time to heal and so far so good...
Posted 8/18/2018 11:27 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
WBF - when I had my two amalgams replaced, I had sensitivity when biting down ...so I decided to baby that side for awhile...for a few weeks I would chew mostly on my left side and only chew soft foods on the right.

At about two months in, the sensitivity went away.


I was worried that the root was irritated and I did not want a root canal...so I gave it time to heal and so far so good...

Thanks! I'm hoping mine will go away in time.
Posted 8/18/2018 11:31 PM (GMT 0)

WalkingbyFaith said...

Girlie said...
WBF - when I had my two amalgams replaced, I had sensitivity when biting down ...so I decided to baby that side for awhile...for a few weeks I would chew mostly on my left side and only chew soft foods on the right.

At about two months in, the sensitivity went away.


I was worried that the root was irritated and I did not want a root canal...so I gave it time to heal and so far so good...

Thanks! I'm hoping mine will go away in time.

Try not to chew on the sensitive tooth for a few weeks...if that's possible.
Posted 8/19/2018 12:09 AM (GMT 0)
Sounds like you are in good hands. Most biological dds follow the huggins protocol. Remember that the metal that is being drilled out is 50% mercury-the second most deadly element know to man. You do not want to inhale it. FYI-its also a well known neurotoxin (why dds think it should be inches from your brain is beyond me)
I did meet a women who died from getting her fillings removed so do make sure the dds takes it serious.
As long as your dds treats this serious and follows a protocol you should be good. Get a Clifford test to see what should replace the silver-its a blood test. Remember your new fillings will be in your body 24-7 365 till the day you die so best to not be allergic. Simple blood test.
I hope to see my pal Dr Doug Cook soon-he wrote the book Rescued by my Dentist-He cites a small study where another dds tested the immune system before removing all metals from patients and after. I think it was only 17 patients but on average the immune system doubled or said another way with metal in your jaw your immune system could be cut in half. So this may be a great thing for your health-plus mercury is just terrible for humans.
Most of use take Vit C which is great-just don't take before this procedure. During and after are good. Vit C will neutralize most everything including the medication that the dds will use to num your jaw.
Good luck-great step to take in regaining your health
Posted 8/19/2018 12:35 AM (GMT 0)
Wow magoo. Thank u for this info.

So do I just ask my bio dentist for this Clifford test?

And u just scared the crap out of me with his lady that died!! How did she die?? What the heck happened??
Did she go to a bio dentist?! Jesus lol
Posted 8/19/2018 2:23 AM (GMT 0)
How did she die-a dds drilled out several fillings with no precautions-a couple months later she got very sick with als like symptoms. I met he a month later at a clinic in Switzerland where they discovered she was off the chart with mercury. She died a couple months later. You wont-your doc is smarter.
I would ask the dds for the Clifford test or some other method to know if the materials will work with your body. Filling and implants are in you forever-this should be standard
Posted 8/19/2018 12:04 PM (GMT 0)
That's just super scary omg. Poor lady!!!! That just overall makes me very nervous and scared...
I can't deal with this much longer...Ugh

I had a hair text done I January that showed no mercury toxicity..i don't even know how accurate that is or if it even means anything!!!
Posted 8/21/2018 1:13 AM (GMT 0)
you may google the words- dental meridian chart.
The chart is based of TCM and has around forever. Check it out and see if
the fillings or root canals match up with any issues you may have. I am
often surprised how well this works
Posted 8/21/2018 1:28 AM (GMT 0)

WalkingbyFaith said...
I just had all mine removed by a SMART certified biological dentist. I had 8 teeth involved - 4 on the left, 4 on the right. Some teeth had more than one filling. Done in 2 visits, 1 month apart. Total cost was around $5,600. This was done in South Carolina.

I was very concerned that the whole ordeal would make me feel worse, but so far, I'm okay. Last ones came out 5 weeks ago.

Overall, it was not as bad as I feared but was still quite uncomfortable. Four of the fillings had to be replaced with onlays, which involved getting temporary onlays to start and returning later to have permanent ones put in.

Each visit took about 2 hours. The first visit, I got squirmy and slightly panicky about halfway through, but after a quick break, I was okay. At the second visit, I got "shocked" with one of the numbing shots, which felt like my tongue got stuck with the needle. It hurt. I jumped and hollered and my tongue went numb. Thankfully, I had no permanent nerve damage from it.

I had compatibility testing done with Biocomp Lab prior to replacement. I was given the option of purchasing supplements for detox and immune support (which I declined) to use prior to and for a few months after removals. During removals, I was given all the protective gear and oxygen and was given a slurry of charcoal and chlorella to swallow before and after.

I have no regrets. I do have sensitivity pain when chewing in one area that I've already talked to the dentist about. He did something to try to make it better, but it still isn't right. I have one final appointnent next week. Hopefully it is fixable. I also have noticed more hot/cold sensitivity, which I didn't have before. Also, most of my molars had fillings, and the composites and onlays feel quite different from the amalgams and my natural teeth. Now the surface is more flat, and it is harder to chew because the teeth don't grip and tear food as well.

I have not done anything yet for chelation. I have been on Pectasol-C for over a year and started Pectaclear 2 months ago. Those are both supposed to slowly and safely detox metals. I have not had any kind of heavy metals testing done. As for chelation, I am inclined to heed Andy Cutler's warnings. Not sure if and when I will embark on chelation. It seems a dangerous, tedious, long-term commitment.

What did your compatibility test show? I am thinking of doing clifford test - have the kit here but it’s $300. I just had metals patch test done at allergist and some stuff came up.

When I did Andy Cutler chelation I developed a tremor in my jaw which I still have. I wish I would have never did it. I also had to dose dmsa at shorter time interval or I would get crippling migraines.
Posted 8/21/2018 2:52 AM (GMT 0)
k07,

The Biocomp test results were 53 pages long. I showed reactivity to lots of things, but there were also plenty of things available that I did not react to. I had done allergy patch testing in 2009, which revealed a number of things. Ironically, there were several substances I had a reaction to on the patch tests that showed as non-reactive on the Biocomp test. I told the dentist, and he annotated my test results.

Biocomp is more stringent than Clifford in regards to how they report results. You can read about it here. www.google.com/amp/s/iaomt.org/practical-guide-compatibility-testing-dental-materials/amp/.

Thank you for sharing your experience with Cutler's protocol. I don't think I want to do chelation. I'd rather just use the Pectasol-C and Pectaclear as long as I can.

I forgot to add, the MELISA test is the test for reactivity to metals. That is also explained in the link above.

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 8/20/2018 8:55:37 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 11/26/2018 11:35 PM (GMT 0)

physedgirl09 said...
Hey everyone!!
Happy Saturday to you all! I’m on my way to celebrate my 5th wedding anniversary. While I’m in the car doing nothing I figured I’d ask ya a question lol.

So I’m June I saw a biological dentist. Drove 2 hours to see him! I like him a lot. He has this crazy machine that tests pressure points and it tells you all my toxicity. (I honestly can’t explain it lol. It’s a screen, then he has me hold some metal thing in one hand, and then with the other hand he has this pen like thing that he puts on my pressure points on my hand). It’s kinda cool. Ok anyways, so it came up that I’m a toxic mess lol. So in June he gave me a chemical detox with homeopathic stuff. Now I’m detoxing pesticides.

The next step is heavy metals. And I have 4 amalgams he wants to safely remove. Not gonna lie I’ve been wanting them out for a long long time. They can’t be good!
I’m waiting to see the cost. What can I expect from this?? Anyone have any experience with it??

Thanx all

I had 2 removed about 8 years ago at the time I was becoming ill with type 1 diabetes after my tooth cracked chewing something. It did not make any difference to my health. The metal fillings did cause my teeth to crack though so I wish I had had them removed and redone years ago. I ended up needing bridges which was very expensive with no dental ins. My dentist although he was into alternative health ideas, did not do any tests like yours did, frankly I think that is not believable about the detox thing etc. and I would have searched for another if he had. He since passed away unfortunately.
Posted 11/27/2018 2:23 AM (GMT 0)
"Girlie, I read that you used activated charcoal successfully and was hoping you could tell me how much and how long before and after the removals. Sorry for the length, but I wanted to get as much info out there. I feel I need to take the reins and do what is best for me. I am scheduled to have another removed on Thursday. Thinking it may be too soon. Thank you for your thoughts!!"


It was a few years ago now... I took some capsules of charcoal with me and some water in a bottle. (small amount)_ ...and when I parked my car, before going in - I opened up two capsules and emptied them into the water bottle and then swished some around in my mouth and swallowed... then repeated that.

After the procedure was over...I drove home and I think I did the same thing again, but instead of swallowing, I spit it out after swishing it around in my mouth and gargling with it.
Posted 11/27/2018 4:18 PM (GMT 0)
Elaina,

Chelation of any kind while still having amalgams is a recipe for disaster. Having amalgams removed by a regular dentist is, too, if the dentist is not using SMART protocol. You could suffer serious harm.

Is this how your dentist is removing the amalgams?
https://iaomt.org/resources/safe-removal-amalgam-fillings/

I stopped blindly trusting doctors (including alternative and Lyme literate ones) about two years ago.
Posted 11/27/2018 8:22 PM (GMT 0)
thank you Girlie and Walking Faith!
Posted 11/27/2018 9:44 PM (GMT 0)

Elaina said...
I clearly feel better off the protocol. ( chlorella, r lipoic acid, NAC, aged garlic)

chlorella, NAC, aged garlic - none of these are actual mercury chelators. Chlorella loosely binds to mercury and will move it around your body (which is really bad and probably why you cant handle it) but does not actual bind to it as it doesn't have a double thiol bond.

DMSA, DMPS, and Lipoic acid are the only true chelators available currently and lipoic acid is actually a rather mild chelator but is the only one to cross the BBB barrier so its important.

If I were mercury toxic the last thing i would be doing is lots of chlorella and if my Doctor was telling me to do so I would I would fire that Doctor immediately. Your mileage may vary.
Posted 11/27/2018 9:52 PM (GMT 0)

Elaina said...
Hi Girlie. I am hoping you will see this post regarding Amalgam filling removals. I have done two DMSA challenges in the past 9 years. The first showed high mercury. The second was done 5 years later (2012) and the mercury had dropped considerably, but still considered high. (I believed it dropped as I cut seafood out of my diet completely). Both challenges put me into a tail spin. Honestly thought I would die I got so sick and debilitated. It took me weeks to rebound. So from that point on, My LLMD and LLND and I decided to just assume the heavy metals are there and not put me through that again just continue to detox. My Lyme activity seems very low now but I am still plagued with chronic illness. Metals have been highly concerning to me and I am convinced that metals are my road block to gaining my health back. Recently I changed both LLMD and LLND's and they both looked in my mouth at very first apt. and said that the amalgam fillings need to come out! !

wait...hold on...your doctors gave you a DMSA challenge...while you had mercury in your freaking mouth???

are you joking? thats a recipe for disaster! thats downright medical malpractice. Thats shockingly stupid and flat out malicious. And after that they put you on a chelation protocol while still having the mercury in your mouth?

what kind of numbskull moron doctors are these? This is unreal. No wonder patients dont get better, they're being treated by subhuman idiots. Feel free to tell you doctors a random person on the internet thinks they should turn in their medical degrees.
Posted 11/29/2018 1:15 AM (GMT 0)
Lapis,
Woohoo!!!! You da man!!!!!
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