Bee Venom Therapy (bvt) - Part 3

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I was taught to read pulses to see what maybe needs help according to japonese style acupuncture. However a little self kinesiology can help point you in the right direction ...so buy a chart (hard 2 find ) or old book with points ....the liver point on inner knee crease and one on floating ribs is great for sets or fulls, now with the mild winter bees ...i stung stomach 36 (front left side of knee ) alot and rotated so can have a chance to heal. ..this is where microstinging may be helpful ..as it can be done daily if need bee...

I have setbacks. But overall, I'm headed in the right direction.

I've been a bit blah the past month after having the best month I've had since before going to Sanoviv last year. You are so right about not noticing how well you're doing til you realize how much you're doing. That happened to me today. I hadn't realized how much I was getting accomplished until I had a major flare after drinking too many coffee drinks. It literally gave me a massive neurological flare that left me sensitive to noise, barely able to move or speak. Lasted a couple hours.

But, overall, I feel I'm coming out of the slump I've been in for the past month.

I think I'll be going with 13 bees on Monday.

Bart? I have been doing bvt, multiple abx and herbals continuously for 18 months now. Between 10 and 15 bees every other day. I have done iv rocephrin, ceftin, azithromyacin, plaquenil, biaxin, rifampin, and I'm sure others that I am forgetting with bvt. Last pcr test showed no more Lyme but still dealing with bart. Can't say which helped me get this far, better than I was although still pretty bad. Or maybe it was the combo of the three? At any rate in my experience it has been OK to do both at same time however I have heard that bvt may interfere with some abx. My llmd doesn't seem concerned about that

RC, I decided against going up to 13 for the time being. But, I've been doing pretty good at 12. I'll probably just stay here for a while.

How are you doing?

RainyCloud said...
Hi Hoagie! I understand, I think it's good that you know what is best for the time being.

I personally messed up my calculation on how many bees I needed.

That and a lot of them suddenly died, so I've actually been without bees for a week or so.

I'm worried that it has set me back to the beginning again, although I'm not sure if this is a reasonable conclusion?

Maybe I'm worrying for nothing.

Thank you for the update!

I'm in the same boat. My bees were supposed to be here Thursday, but something happened during shipping and they got stuck in a warehouse in CA for 3 days. They will all probably be dead when I get them, and I haven't stung since Monday. It happens. Like bl mentioned, a week or so every now and then is fine. A lot of abx protocols have you take a week off anyway. We'll be ok. Just take this time to detox really well.

Just looked up seizures in the bvt group. Ellie and Nancy, 2 of the original healed vets, had serious seizures on bvt. It was from the bvt killing the infections and they got better.

I think quitting would be a bad idea. I strongly encourage you to join that Facebook group if you have not already.

Chiming in here--I am at 33 months and ~4500 stings and at 90-95% wellness. I get occasional tingling in my legs and very transient fatigue, but i have my life back for the most part. I'm sticking it out for the full 36 months and may go a little longer. To be honest I am a little scared to stop. My advice to those doing it is to stick with it; it is indeed a roller coaster.

Lyme44 - how much improved were you after your 2+ years of abx?

Awesome to hear Lyme44. I understand about stopping. It's going to be difficult for me to stop. But, I'm just over 6 months in with a ways to go. I can do a lot more than I used to. But, I'm not doing as good as I should do to a recent poor diet and stress. Given I'm dealing with poor nutrition and stress, and still running my morning business, I'd say the bees are doing fantastic.

The thing that may make it difficult for me to stop is not knowing what is permanent damage and what's not.

bluelyme said...
Well hoagie ...thats when i thank the creator for the bees and i watch the stephen hawking movie made a few years back ....i have more mobility ,dexterity and cognition every day...some damage is perm but as time trickles its more and more under the bridge ....forgiving myself for letting me get this bad was part of the healing process. Processing the blame i hold for others misguided ignorance , well thats another story.

What Stephen Hawking movie?

I'm very happy you keep improving. And I pray you can let the blame go for others.

I have just realized I'm moving my body position while sleeping again. This was a worrying symptom. Just after I was diagnosed 18 months ago, everything had gotten worse. And I started waking up in a bit of pain because I had stopped shifting while sleeping and just stayed in the exact same position. But, the past week I go to sleep on my side and wake up on my back like I used to before all this crap. My tailbone pain comes and goes, but it is becoming more infrequent. Also, which may be tmi, my stools have been consistently normal for the first time in over 2 years.

It's strange, because some things sometimes feel as if they are getting worse. But so much has gotten better. I just pray my mobility improves.

Girlie said...
The movie is “The Theory of Everything”

Hoagie you have tailbone pain?

I don’t hear about that symptom much.

I had it - it only hurt when I had been sitting for awhile and then stood up.

Mine went away when I was treating bart.
I guess it was part of the bart “bone pain” package.

Do you attribute it to bart too?

I've had the tailbone pain for over 4 years now. It happened shortly after a bad cat bite that sent me to the urgent care in 2012. So, I'm assuming it's bart. Hoping bvt is starting to address these things.