Parasites- nightmare to rid.

hi all

First, i shout out and thanks to this forum because you helped me figure out years ago that all my issues were from undx'ed lyme and coninfections.

I have had symptoms of candida as well as parasites. I've been working with a great doc on the lyme, yeast and coninfections and feel I've made progress with the lyme, but have been completely unable to get rid of the parasites. I'm feeling at a loss.

Under my doctor's guidance, I've taken several rounds of RX medicine -alinia. albendazole, and prazi are the main 3 he has prescribed. He's prescribed it 5-10 times, and when I go back in and he checks me, I still have the parasites. Also, I can tell. The symptoms manifest as a pocket of bloating and gas in my lower left bowel. If I have a bowel movement and am able to pass them, or if I take an enema to help, I can see the parasites in the toilet.

7 weeks ago, I decided i needed to step up what I'm doing a notch. So I cut out any bad foods from my diet, and eat mostly fish, organic chicken, organic beef, vegetables, coconut milk yogurt, oat bran as the only carb, and a little pineapple but otherwise no fruit. Note- I did not give up coffee, and hope that's not a dealbreaker. I cut out alcohol entirely which I was drinking until recently. I also bought alinia, albendazole and ivermercin on AllDayChemist to try round 2, except on modified diet. As a note, I have already tried 6 weeks straight of these medicines (following Dr Klinghardt's protocol - I dropped the prazi because I couldn't get it). In the last 7 weeks, I take mimosa pudica every day (which I had started months ago), took ivermectin, and am now on alinia. I do 1-2 coffee enemas a week which really helps with teh symptoms- and I pass a ton of parasites. Sometimes I struggle to hold the enemas but I always try to do the full 10-15 mins. I also take Vit C, D, papaya seed, a leaky gut support, VSL3DS (probiotic), megasporebiotic, and i take digestive enzymes with every meal.

Despite all this, I can tell I still have parasites. I am literally at my wits end with this. I thought the issue was the alcohol I was drinkiing and some of the poor food choices I would have from time to time, but I've now cut that all out for almost 2 months and I still can't rid these buggers. What am I missing?

Smelly gas and bloating could be bartonella or c diff. What do you mean when you say you can see the parasites in the toilet? What does it look like?

Most parasites (eg babesia, toxoplasma) are tiny and can't be seen without a microscope.

Atovaquone (mepron, malarone) is often recommended for babesia. It can be expensive though.

Disulfiram is also reported to be effective against babesia. See https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=4129850

Sodium valproate (depakote, epilim) has antiparasitic effects and has been found to be effective against toxoplasma gondii in vivo. See eg https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12837520/

Cryptosporidium is an apicomplexan parasite, somewhat related to babesia and toxoplasma, so it might be worth trying anti-malarial drugs for this.

Liver flukes and ropeworms are a completely different type of parasite. Presumably this is what you're taking alinia and albendazole for?

Also good idea on the anti malarial. When I was first dxed with lyme and babs I did that. I could try it again but do think my bigger fish to fry are these flukes. The only thing that really helps are coffee enemas - its awful yet relieving to get all the bugs out. I feel immediately lighter and the bloat goes away and my mood improves. Then 3 days later I need to do it again as the symptoms start back up

Candicid Forte did more for ropeworm than anything else I have done. Mimosa pudica helped some, too. Doing both right now.

Thank you so much. Yeah I'm realizing how hard I have to go to rid my body of these f$$%ers. I think I've been dealing with them for years.

As for my symptom profile, its bloating and gas and gurgling. I also get a lot of yeast infections, including rectally. I'm on nystatin and take voriconazole sometimes too which helps knock it back but it's tough to eradicate. Years ago I had other symptoms connected to the lyme that would come and go- dizziness, fatigue, tingling, nausea- I'd be hauled up sick for days and then it would just pass. I haven't had one of those flairs since I was diagnosed a few years ago and went on 2 months of abx. I also did bee venom with my new doc and he hasn't found lyme the last few times when he checked me with his bio resonance stuff. It's always just positive for candida and a host of parasites. However from what I've read the parasites often have lyme inside them so I'm sure it's not all gone. No doubt my biggest offender are the parasites and have been for years. I've been on mimosa pudica for months- definitely helps but haven't gotten rid of them yet.

I will def look into the stomach acid product. I agree with you about the food- I'm wondering if i get rid of it but then my gut is so susceptible to these things it keeps coming back.

Interesting the candida product helped with ropeworm- I'll look into that too.

Any other things that help strengthen the gut? I would have thought the leaky gut supplement plus probiotics and digestive enzymes would be enough to protect me but clearly not. Oy!

My doc wrote a book about his approach-AcciDental Medical Blowup. He spells out his take on parasites. He used meds-herbs and homeopathics. and used high doses. You may want to read his book. It took me maybe ten rounds-I think my dental was holding me back.
Keep at it-they do die.

You could try to Gubarev enema protocol. I don't have the link for it right now. But you can probably google it or find it in the Bottoms Up facebook group. Parasites are something I'm have a difficult time dealing with too. I have severe reactions to any killing we try. I've done ivermectin, alinia, albendazole. But not many rounds of them. The homeopathics have been the strongest thing for me to deal with. Way more herx symptoms with them.

magoo2 said...
My doc wrote a book about his approach-AcciDental Medical Blowup. He spells out his take on parasites. He used meds-herbs and homeopathics. and used high doses. You may want to read his book. It took me maybe ten rounds-I think my dental was holding me back.
Keep at it-they do die.

Hi Magoo please can I ask you a question. I've read a lot about Dr Simon Yu work and wanted to ask about your experience with dental issues and parasite medication. So I've been going through a parasite cleanse for this year an in the later stages. I just wanted to ask how long did you wait after your dental surgery to continue your parasite medications. I heard Dr Simon Yu gives it to his patients straight away. Be Im wondering how long to wait.. I waited about 10 days after my cavitation surgery and now i'm wondering what will impact healing more the parasites or the killing of the parasites.

Please could you tell me how long you waited before taking parasite medications after dental surgery.