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Posted 7/19/2019 9:57 PM (GMT 0)
My doctor wants me to add this. Any experiences?

Are there any people who should not use this?
Posted 7/20/2019 1:31 AM (GMT 0)
I tried it, it just didn't work for me. It's contraindicated for thyroid disease if I remember correctly.
Posted 7/20/2019 2:58 AM (GMT 0)
I know that carnitine is one of the things Dr J tests for. Was yours low?
Posted 7/20/2019 3:45 AM (GMT 0)

LymeWire said...
I know that carnitine is one of the things Dr J tests for. Was yours low?

I wasn’t tested for it. I just had the OAT test, and the doctor recommended it related to the OAT results. I can’t remember why or what it’s supposed to do.
Posted 7/20/2019 4:01 AM (GMT 0)
n-acetyl-l-cysteine and acetyl-l-carnitine can be easily confused.

https://www.livestrong.com/article/552774-n-acetyl-l-cysteine-and-acetyl-l-carnitine/

I tried both. Looking at my suppliments used notes:
n-acetyl-l-cysteine; note says "lowers candida and mold, raises Gluthathion".

EDIT: n-acetyl-l-carnitine; note says "to much energy" (LOL). Must have effected my thyroid or adrenals and made me nervous.

Some amino acids might not be not good for "Thyroidians", trial and sometimes error. Autoimmune thyroid can be a "touchy" thing.

Post Edited (astroman) : 7/20/2019 9:11:38 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/20/2019 4:17 AM (GMT 0)

LymeWire said...
I know that carnitine is one of the things Dr J tests for. Was yours low?

Which Dr J - DC?
Posted 7/20/2019 6:52 AM (GMT 0)
Buhner recommends it for "low brain energy." I take it as part of the broader Buhner protocol (with lots of add-ons for neuroborreliosis), so I can't really comment on the precise effects of acetyl-l-carnitine. As a whole the protocol makes a huge difference though.
Posted 7/20/2019 12:08 PM (GMT 0)

astroman said...
n-acetyl-l-cysteine and acetyl-l-carnitine can be easily confused.

https://www.livestrong.com/article/552774-n-acetyl-l-cysteine-and-acetyl-l-carnitine/

I tried both. Looking at my suppliments used notes:
n-acetyl-l-cysteine; note says "lowers candida and mold, raises Gluthathion".

n-acetyl-l-cysteine; note says "to much energy" (LOL). Must have effected my thyroid or adrenals and made me nervous.

Some amino acids might not be not good for "Thyroidians", trial and sometimes error. Autoimmune thyroid can be a "touchy" thing.

You said n-acetyl-l-cysteine in both places. Was it acetyl-l-carnitine that caused too much energy?
Posted 7/20/2019 12:14 PM (GMT 0)
Energy boosting sounds right. That’s all my doctor seems to focus on, and it’s the least of my issues. Go figure.

Cysteine sounds like it would be much more useful to me. Wonder why she didn’t recommend that.

I know I have read things in the past with warnings about supplementing different amino acids, saying they should be in balance with each other and supplementation can cause problems. I think I have also read about problems due to methylation (or some other -ation) issues with some amino acids.

I have supplemented l-lysine long term, but no others. I have l-ornithine but only used it briefly. Can’t remember now what it was for.
Posted 7/20/2019 12:34 PM (GMT 0)
I can't be much help here, but my Buhner notes say not to use carnitine with brain seizures. Perhaps it is a coagulant, but I am guessing. I did buy it, but then came across something that caused me to stop using it. Can't remember the details, unfortunately. The only coagulant I allow myself is Red Root for the spleen, and I compensate with natto and aspirin.

I also have heard that the aminos must be balanced. But I think that was in relation to their use as complete protein for dietary reasons. The reading didn't say that unbalancing them would cause problems, it said it would be useless. But what you're referring to might be something entirely different.

I can say, in agreement with Buhner, that L-Arginine has been a game-changer with regard to treating Babesia. I take 500mg every 2 hours, and when I miss I begin to feel the effects of the disease returning. It has been a lifesaver. So I don't necessarily take the balancing thing seriously, though there may well be circumstances where it is important.
Posted 7/20/2019 1:26 PM (GMT 0)
Paul,

Thx. That corroborates what I was vaguely remembering.

Glad you’re able to take arginine and it’s working for you. I didn’t know it was used for babesia. I knew it was in the bartonella protocol, but I never dared try it, as I have had shingles twice.
Posted 7/20/2019 3:15 PM (GMT 0)

WalkingbyFaith said...


You said n-acetyl-l-cysteine in both places. Was it acetyl-l-carnitine that caused too much energy?

Yes, and I fixed the link to both. But, Keep in mind, in my case, this might be from my thyroid reacting to it. Or maybe adrenals. It didnt last long though.
Posted 7/20/2019 4:34 PM (GMT 0)

paul_b said...
I did buy it, but then came across something that caused me to stop using it.

Sorry, correction: it was L-ornithine I stopped using. I'm still taking L-carnitine twice a day with meals.
Posted 7/20/2019 4:37 PM (GMT 0)
Idk if carnotine is the same as carnosine but I was given L-carnosine and it caused my whole body to be tingly and numb!!!!!!!
Posted 7/21/2019 1:45 AM (GMT 0)
No, two different names, two different things
Posted 7/21/2019 2:39 AM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
Which Dr J - DC?

Yes, Dr J in DC. At my first appointment, they ordered about two dozen blood tests, including carnitine.
Posted 7/21/2019 3:49 AM (GMT 0)

LymeWire said...

Girlie said...
Which Dr J - DC?

Yes, Dr J in DC. At my first appointment, they ordered about two dozen blood tests, including carnitine.

I'll have to check my labs - I did get a huge list to get done...just don't remember the L-carnitine.
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