Nigella Sativa

Starting a new thread. Couldn’t find the other one.

I was taking black seed oil at 10 drops 2x day and added nigella sativa seeds around 1/2 tsp 2x day. I was expecting to herx from it but haven’t. I must be doing something wrong.

I bought Ziyad brand nigella seeds from a Middle Eastern store. I have been chewing the seeds and swallowing them. Roughly 1/2 tsp 2x day plus the drops.

Is this not a good brand? Am I not eating them right? Dose not high enough?

You need to weigh the seeds to know how much you are getting. A two gram difference can be huge.

As long as they are fresh, I don't think the brand matters. Mine came from eBay. Buy some digital scales, it means the difference between no benefit and positive gains.

Georgia Hunter said...
As long as they are fresh, I don't think the brand matters. Mine came from eBay. Buy some digital scales, it means the difference between no benefit and positive gains.

Is 2 grams enough per day? How much do I have to take for it to work on killing gut pathogens? Does it kill bacteria or parasites or only mold/yeast?

I did some googling on nigella sativa. Seems this is one plant medicine that has been extensively studied.

I am not good at science or math, so asking for help interpreting this data for modern application.

This is the article I am talking about: https://
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc3642442/

Here’s what sounds like conflicting information:
(From Section 5.2)

“Methanolic extracts of N. sativa have the strongest antifungal effect followed by the chloroform extracts against different strains of Candida albicans. Aqueous extracts showed no antifungal activity.”

. . . . then later in the same paragraph: “Khan et al. in 2003 reported that the aqueous extract of N. sativa seeds exhibits inhibitory effect against candidiasis in mice. A 5-fold decrease in Candida in kidneys, 8-fold in liver and 11-fold in spleen was observed in the groups of animals post-treated with the plant extract. These findings were also confirmed by Histopathological examination of the respective organs[30].”

The above sounds like water based extracts showed no antifungal activity. Then they said a water extract inhibited effects against candidiasis. Does this mean the water extract did not kill or inhibit the existence of Candida, but it did inhibit negative effects normally caused by Candida,

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Says methanolic extracts were the best antifungals followed by chloroform extracts. How do I find nigella sativa extracted in these methods?

Also appears to be significant differences in medicinal properties based on where the nigella comes from.
(From Section 5.1)

In regarding inhibition of S. aureus: “The inhibition obtained was higher with N. sativa ground seeds from Hadramout than with N. sativa ground seeds from Ethiopia.“

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A****ng Herbs premiun black seed oil bottle says “contains .95 - 2.6 % Thymoquinone.” It it cold pressed - no alcohol or hexane. Here’s the label: https://www.amazon.com/amazing-herbs-cold-pressed-black-seed/dp/b0009j69i4/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=amazing+herbs+black+seed+oil+organic+cold+pressed&qid=1568034481&s=gateway&sprefix=amazing+herbs+&sr=8-3

The Blessed Seed Strong oil is also cold pressed. Their claims of potency are a little tricky, so you have to do math to compare. States: The Blessed Seed Strong contains 3.5%-4.6% of volatile oil of which 66% is thymoquinone. So, 66% of 3.5 - 4.6 equals 2.31 - 3.036 % thymoquinone.

Ziyad is the brand of seeds I bought.

I didn’t see the country of origin identified in the photos of any of the products.

This is my very long-winded way of wondering how to use the data in this study to find a nigella product to take that will be effective against Candida and other fungi (and hopefully other gut pathogens) and how much of any one product is required to achieve success.

Does any have herbal books that give dosages of seeds or oil for particular applications? It’s impossible to find anything on google.

Get the blessed seed oil one there’s nothing even close to it if you ask me.

Very potent esp against candida I know from experience.

WalkingbyFaith said...
Thanks guys! I’ll keep going with both until I run out. Just the past 2 days I noticed my overall inflammation has gone down and my sensitivities are not as bad. Maybe the nigella is helping something. Hard to say what makes the difference. Could just be hormone fluctuations.

I have noticed my cognitive functioning has gotten a lot worse over the past few weeks. It’s still bad even though my body feels better right now.

The cognitive decline is from a decrease in detox pathways. Those yeast bind metals that are released when they die and you need more antioxidants to bind the free radicals. You need to decrease oxidative stress. I am not the best person to tell you how to do that but some on this forum are pretty good at it.

UPDATE:

Looks like I can’t quote my own post so I will do it manually.
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I noted above:

“Just the past 2 days I noticed my overall inflammation has gone down and my sensitivities are not as bad. Maybe the nigella is helping something. Hard to say what makes the difference. Could just be hormone fluctuations.

I have noticed my cognitive functioning has gotten a lot worse over the past few weeks. It’s still bad even though my body feels better right now.”
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That was on Monday. Today’s Friday. For about 3 days now, I have noticed my sensitivities are worse again. Having that weird numbness/pressure in top of head and down face and neck to upper chest again. More burning in tissues and sensitivities when going in stores, etx. It’s from mold, chemicals, or MCAS one.

I am suspecting mold exposure is the cause, as my newest respirator mask seems to be having issues. I have been buying a half-face respirator and organic vapor cartridges. They work great new but seem to have issues after about 2 weeks. Another expense I don’t need. 😔