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Posted 9/22/2019 7:34 PM (GMT 0)
Hi im doing garlic and herbals plus stevia && some osha root

But im turning to a new study from john hopkins and that is

essential oils specific ones that heal lyme better than antibiotics - ive ordered an oil diffuser with the oils

& im going to try it out
Posted 9/22/2019 11:27 PM (GMT 0)
“...essential oils specific ones that heal lyme better than antibiotics -“

Who is saying that?

No harm done to try it out - but I’m doubtful.

I know many people who have healed using abx (people I personally know plus others’ - forum members... etc) but I don’t think I know of one person who healed with eo’s being their main treatment.

But probably no harm done trying the essential oils.
Are you just difusing the oils or ingesting them?
Posted 9/23/2019 4:07 PM (GMT 0)
This is the article in reference, needs more testing

https://hub.jhu.edu/2018/12/04/lyme-disease-treatment-essential-oils/

I use EO as a support and for certain symptoms and find them very effective. I hope more people do try this.
Posted 9/23/2019 6:08 PM (GMT 0)
im going to be diffusing them


i have bought an oil diffuser and using all the ones in the john hopkins study

I may also use them in bath so the components of the oils enter my blood stream

im also doing some fasting and stevia which i found to be super effective despite what others may say about it especially for nuerological

Post Edited (lymedriven) : 9/25/2019 11:26:14 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/23/2019 7:47 PM (GMT 0)
i tried 2 bottles of the highest carvacrol oil of oregano i could find (75%). took capsules for almost 4m. except for ocasional stomack burn, no effect.

only later i read these oils do not cross into the blood in hi quantity, so it is imho pointless to try too much of it.

the lyme culture has all sorts of trends, 10years ago there were hebs, now oils are cool.

these things come and go and the only constants are - your empty pocket and your chronic disease....

now we have some promising new treatments, but as Girlie likes to remind me.. time will tell...
Posted 9/24/2019 2:23 AM (GMT 0)
Did you read a scientific article about diffusing EOs as a form of treatment? I've never heard of that. There are groups on FB that treat w EOs, but they ingest them and/or apply them to body parts.
Posted 9/24/2019 7:57 AM (GMT 0)
ok ingesting could be fatal - can you link out a group as well so i can check them out?
Posted 9/24/2019 1:50 PM (GMT 0)
So can untreated lyme. There's one called Essentially Healed Oil Ed. Just put it in the search box on facebook.
Posted 9/24/2019 3:24 PM (GMT 0)
I’ve never heard of ingesting essential oils as fatal?
I guess maybe if it was the oils you buy in a home decor department that are just meant to be diffused as an air freshener and serve no real therapeutic purpose. Or if you drank a whole bottle of the stuff. But then you could say a lot of things are fatal with that logic.
I ingest certain ones, but very small amounts. I’m talking like 1-2 drops diluted in like 32 oz of water. I find the cassia oil calms an upset digestive system quickly and effectively with no side effects. I use the lemon oil in place of real lemons sometimes in water because it’s easier to take on the go and when traveling rather than carrying lemons around. I haven’t ingested any of the others so I can’t say. The rest I use topically or in a diffuser.
Posted 9/24/2019 3:34 PM (GMT 0)
I haven't heard that either, actually. I have heard you need to be careful of what oils you use. I use doterra.
Posted 9/24/2019 8:02 PM (GMT 0)

JovaLyme said...
Interesting.

I was definitely under the impression that essential oils are not supposed to be ingested.

I might look into this.

The companies tell you they are safe but they’re not regulated by fda so you’re trusting they’re all good to ingest.
Posted 9/24/2019 9:30 PM (GMT 0)
My niece sells DoTERRA and she ingests them - says they’re safe.
In fact she has replaced the lemon extract (and others) for baking with the DoTERRA lemon eo

I think she takes a blend of eo’s for a cleanse as well... but until I know they are regulated by the fda and have to follow the rules/regs - I’m not ingesting them.
Posted 9/25/2019 1:31 AM (GMT 0)
I've ingested EO from YL, they are fine to ingest as long as you dillute them properly, no problem.
Posted 9/25/2019 1:36 AM (GMT 0)

Lapis_29 said...
I've ingested EO from YL, they are fine to ingest as long as you dillute them properly, no problem.

But are they up to the standards?
If they’re not classified as a food or drug - how do you really know what’s happening in the production? If they aren’t obligated to be at a certain standard - ie cleanliness in manufacturing... etc.

Just throwing it out there.
Posted 9/25/2019 5:27 PM (GMT 0)

Lapis_29 said...
I've ingested EO from YL, they are fine to ingest as long as you dillute them properly, no problem.

Good to know I'm new but I'll be diffusing them ~~ John Hopkins study showed effectiveness fir Lyme persistors and forms.
I've ordered the oils from their study I'll be making a diffuser concoction
Posted 9/25/2019 5:55 PM (GMT 0)
diffusing EO's will never cure lyme or any other serious disease
Posted 9/25/2019 6:12 PM (GMT 0)

Lapis_29 said...
diffusing EO's will never cure lyme or any other serious disease

I highly doubt it will either.

Can’t see how it’s possible.
Posted 9/26/2019 2:15 AM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...

Lapis_29 said...
I've ingested EO from YL, they are fine to ingest as long as you dillute them properly, no problem.

But are they up to the standards?
If they’re not classified as a food or drug - how do you really know what’s happening in the production? If they aren’t obligated to be at a certain standard - ie cleanliness in manufacturing... etc.

Just throwing it out there.

Just like any other vitamin, supplement, herbal product you buy?
Trust me, I’m not here saying EO’s can cure Lyme disease, because I don’t believe they can.
I think they can be a support just like any other vitamin or supplement or herb. If you are going to exclude something just because it is not regulated by the FDA than you exclude all those things too?
Posted 9/26/2019 4:01 AM (GMT 0)
Supplements are regulated by the FDA
Posted 9/26/2019 7:40 AM (GMT 0)
besides oil of oregano with hi carvacrol content, i also tried oil of garlic, for about 6 months. took two large 250pills bottles. no obvious effect of any kind.

so i am really skeptical. i know Zhang has tested them, but these are IN VITRO tests. they dont mean much because these oils may not get absorbed. so yeah if u put them directly on a bug, they kill the bug. but the bug lives in your body, not on a petri dish. so if the oil does not get inside your body where the bug is, it wont going to work.

in vitro tests are just supposed to guide in vivo tests. since we have almost no in vivo tests for chronic lyme, because you know, the disease does not exist, we use in vitro tests and just wash ourselves with lots of chemicals and hope at least some of them get absorbed ...

SAD!
Posted 9/26/2019 12:52 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
Supplements are regulated by the FDA

Herbs are not. Yet many of us trust herbalists like Buhner and the small herbal companies he indicated are good quality purveyors.

But I think herbs have a much stronger historical use and have been documented over long periods of time by multiple countries.
Posted 9/26/2019 3:42 PM (GMT 0)
Mostly I’m referring to the statement on every bottle and tincture I have in my house at this moment including herbs and EO’s:
“These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease”
The FDA states directly on their website they do not have the resources to test supplements for potency or even accuracy of ingredients. All that is required is that the ingredients are on the label including inactive ingredients and boom now you can sell a dietary supplement.
Basically it’s all a gamble if what’s in your bottle is as potent, pure, etc as it says it is.
Certain companies do third party testing to verify their potency and that’s why they cost more than others like say a Kirkland signature vitamin or something like that.
Everyone has to decide for themselves if they want to trust any of these companies producing these products and the claims they make and make the best choice you can based on the information you are given.
Trust me, I get the skepticism and I think it’s a good thing to be selective and not just try everything that comes along.
Posted 9/26/2019 5:08 PM (GMT 0)

WalkingbyFaith said...

Girlie said...
Supplements are regulated by the FDA

Herbs are not. Yet many of us trust herbalists like Buhner and the small herbal companies he indicated are good quality purveyors.

But I think herbs have a much stronger historical use and have been documented over long periods of time by multiple countries.


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I believe they fall under the FDA 'umbrella'

https://www.fda.gov/food/dietary-supplements


"FDA regulates both finished dietary supplement products and dietary ingredients. FDA regulates dietary supplements under a different set of regulations than those covering "conventional" foods and drug products. Under the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA):

Manufacturers and distributors of dietary supplements and dietary ingredients are prohibited from marketing products that are adulterated or misbranded. That means that these firms are responsible for evaluating the safety and labeling of their products before marketing to ensure that they meet all the requirements of DSHEA and FDA regulations.
FDA is responsible for taking action against any adulterated or misbranded dietary supplement product after it reaches the market."



"The Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act defines a dietary ingredient as a vitamin; mineral; herb or other botanical; amino acid; dietary substance for use by man to supplement the diet by increasing the total dietary intake; or a concentrate, metabolite, constituent, extract, or combination of the preceding substances."


But....I'm now thinking that the EO's may also be regulated - if the company is promoting ingesting them....they'd have to?
So...maybe they are safe to take orally.....lol
Posted 9/26/2019 5:19 PM (GMT 0)
Jovalyme

I don’t know a ton about essential oils yet, I’ve just gotten into it recently. As far as I know the only ones safe for internal use are Doterra and I think Young Living? The doterra bottles have the dilution amounts for each one printed on the bottles , some you can do 2-4 drops in 32 oz, some 1-2 drops, some not at all.
For me, I have a 32 oz water bottle and regardless of what the instructions say I can’t get past 1-2 drops of anything because the taste is so strong and the oils are extremely potent, I haven’t needed more to get the effect I’m going for.
The frustrating thing and the thing that held me off from trying doterra for so long was the way you have to purchase it through a salesperson, it seemed like buying Avon or other MLM thing to me and I didn’t take it seriously. You’ll find though on Facebook groups (essential oils and Lyme support group on Facebook is one) or even maybe friends you have people will just sell it to you for their wholesale price and aren’t really trying to have a business with it. I wish they would just sell it like any other supplement I think it might get taken more seriously.
Posted 9/26/2019 5:23 PM (GMT 0)
DoTerra is definitely MLM.

I would't let that stop me from purchasing. They appear to be good quality.
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