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Posted 12/26/2019 4:16 PM (GMT 0)
Am in last couple weeks of Dr. J Lyme Induction protocol (pulsed Minocycline, Azithromycin, Flagyl, and Omnicef). Had huge herx/flare 3rd week into 4th but slowly came out of it and had some improvement in symptoms. Have increased stamina/energy, limb and pelvic symptoms somewhat improved, etc. Felt well enough to start eating some histamine foods and have done fine so far.

Some symptoms that I haven't noted much if any improvement in are my stiff/tense neck, trouble thinking, whole body nausea type feeling, etc.

Last two blood results have come back with one liver enzyme (ALT) around 50 (little high). AST is fine. Have added liver support to where I am now taking Milk Thistle, Dandelion, Burdock, Liposomal Glutathione, ALA, and NAC. Sound like overload? Wondering if the Liposomal Glutathione is necessary if taking the other things? High enzyme could even be a co-infection affecting liver? Enzymes were in range before starting Lyme Induction. Thanks!
Posted 12/26/2019 5:27 PM (GMT 0)
Did your PA/NP instruct you to take the glutathione?


The infections can cause the raised liver enzymes.

I had high bilirubin since I was a teen (Gilbert’s syndrome) prior to knowing I had lyme and prior to the onslaught of debilitating symptoms.

The bilirubin has normalized with lyme/bart treatment.

I believe that my high bilirubin was caused from undiagnosed Bartonella.
Posted 12/26/2019 6:38 PM (GMT 0)
That's interesting, thanks. No, PA didn't instruct me to take liposomal glutathione, though she does list it as an option in the detox info sheets she gave me. I was already taking the lipo glutathione when I started with current PA.

Lately, she has twice recommended trying the NAC, so I have started that. Just wonder if I really need the Lipo Glutathione since I'm taking the other precursor stuff. It would be a money saver if I could drop it but don't mind continuing it if it is added benefit. May run it by her at appointment next week.
Posted 12/26/2019 6:52 PM (GMT 0)
I have spent $$$$ on so many things that didn’t make any difference...
it’s frustrating
Posted 12/26/2019 8:37 PM (GMT 0)
Hey, "ChristianWithLyme"!! Hang in there. Wow, I didn't have any (major) herx at all on AW's "Lyme Induction" protocol--but doubtless we've got some different things going on.
My major herx came while doing her "Babesia Part A" protocol. I've had to take some kidney support stuff, since my Creatinine was getting high. The "Rentone" herb pills she recommends seem to be working, for that, along with staggering my abx more and drinking more water. I've just now had to start doing liver support, because my last Safety Lab was high in liver stress. I'm starting to take the Jarrow NAC Sustain pills, for that--and I hope it helps.
Just my opinion, but I think you're overdoing it--I wouldn't think you'd need to take the Glutathione along with NAC. The other supplements may be great, I don't know, I haven't tried them.

Post Edited (BlueRidgeDave) : 12/26/2019 1:40:45 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/26/2019 9:40 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks, BlueRidgeDave. I've got a few more bottles of Lipo Glutathione, but once finished with those if enzymes aren't too bad, I'm inclined to try w/o it and just take the precursors. According to Buhner, NAC may be beneficial for the brain and CNS also, so that would be an additional benefit. Might help with biofilm as well!

Glad you're hanging in there and getting some help with the kidneys!

An interesting thing with my treatment - this time stiff/tense neck hasn't improved much if any in this first two months. Last time I treated, it was one of my biggest improvements in the first two months. I was pulsing Minocycline, Tinidazole, and Ivermectin first time. Could neck be Babesia and Ivermectin was effective against it????
Posted 12/27/2019 2:04 AM (GMT 0)
I took Liposomal Glutathione and I think it helped. I would ask about desiccated liver supplements as well. My acupuncturist actually recommended them, and I think they helped me as well.
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