Going to Give DesBio Babesia/Borellia Kit a Shot

Blakeley’s update:
We have a definite pattern for the most part.
Take vial and that day is normal Lyme day for her. That night, major crash (herx, I guess) which lasts all through the next day.
On the third day, she seems better, less sick, less severe symptoms.
Next day, take next vial and repeat.
Today she took vial 4. Actually had a “decent” day (those are when she sits outside for a bit or goes for a car ride).
At 7 pm, within a span of 30 min, she goes from maybe talking and laughing to horrible crash with severe symptoms. That’s where we are now.
I’ll try to update after next vial.

Post Edited (Blakeleysmom) : 1/17/2020 7:54:14 PM (GMT-7)

Thanks for the updates!

Vial 5 update: within 6 hours of taking this, Blakeley felt like she couldn’t move (her primary symptom), very flu ish, and that night had a sudden sore throat so bad she could barely swallow. She is still in the bed feeling extreme symptoms.

4meows, did you just keep taking box after box of Borrelia/Babesia for 10 months? Were you Still reacting at that point?
I guess I thought after one up series and one down series, that would be it.

As my daughter is not able to function daily, I am hoping the treatment will get her headed toward wellness. She’s been off antibiotics for three weeks now.

Hi, yes, I did keep doing the series month after month, so I repeated the 1-10 and 10-1 over and over again 5 times. So, overall I did 5 rounds of the borrellia/babesia (10 total boxes) between April 2018 and February 2019 and 2 rounds of bartonella (4 total boxes) from March-June 2019. On days I was not taking the vials I was taking the corresponding des bio homochord (30 drops a day) as there is one for borrellia and one for bartonella. The doctor I am seeing uses muscle testing and would test me after each round to see if I was still reacting to the bacteria to determine whether I would do another round. Every so often I would undergo a spectravision scan to examine the prominence of borrelia and other bacteria, viruses, and heavy metals I was dealing with. When I started I was skeptical of the muscle testing and scanning, but it has produced results and seemed to focus my treatment.

So, the number of complete series you do is more related to how severe your infection and symptoms are. Some people could get by with 1 series whereas other could need more. After I finished my all of my series my doctor put me on the 1M and 10M vials and had me take those every three days. My doctor described the 1M and 10M vials as more of an "inoculation" phase and treatment against future bites and infections rather than treating active infections. I had minimal response to the 1M and 10M vials at that point.

My reactions to each vial lessened after the first series (2 boxes) and definitely more so by the final two series of the borrellia/babesia vials. I had fairly strong reactions to both bartonella series, but they did lessen during the second round. One thing my doctor recommended to me is that if you are having too strong of reactions to taking a vial straight, you can put the contents of the vial in a metal or glass water bottle and sip the bottle throughout the day. He suggested this to me at the start of my barontella series and I did this, and it seemed to lessen some of my reactions the day I took the vial.

Hope this helps.

Glad to help. Another protocol my doctor mentioned for what he called super sensitive patients was to put the contents of the vial into a water bottle and sip that bottle over the course of the 3 days, then repeat with the next vial, and so on. He had been trying that protocol with some patients and it helped them continue the treatment as opposed to being too miserable and having to stop. So, that may be something to consider if your daughter continues to have rough responses to the vials.

In addition to some of the des bio detox vials, he also had me take the des bio smart silver liquid, which is supposed to boost the immune system and help break down biofilms.

Unfortunately, as with any type of treatment, it can be a long process to recovery and you just have to stick with it. Co-infections and other underlying issues such as heavy metals, mold, or viruses can also hinder treatment and recovery, and are still part of my problem even though I've improved from where I was 2 years ago.

Nosodes can be tough.. poor girl. I hope she'll manage. Is she taking binders, organ support stuff, I hope?

So far I am doing fine..I think I noticed a little bit of a herx after vials 7 and 8 but took vial 9 last night and don't feel really anything today.

It hasn't improved any of my symptoms, but I am going to go ahead and order another kit so I can finish out the series (10-1).

I also started a parasite cleanse which was really harsh on me.. I stopped the tincture for now and am just doing the Mimosa Pudica and will do the tincture later this week. I honestly think that parasites are my biggest issue right now and probably bartonella as well. It just doesn't feel like the desbio kit really affects me one way or another.

Took vial 10 last night.

Woke up in the middle of the night with a lot of pain and really exhausted today. I am assuming this is a herx. I don't feel too awful though, I am able to work today. I will be doing the 10-1 vials now.

Post Edited (NicHostetler) : 2/6/2020 7:57:01 AM (GMT-7)

So glad there has been some improvement for Blakeley! Has anything else been going on during this time - other treatments or supplements? As a parent, I can imagine what a relief it is for you to see even small improvements!

Hello everyone. The desbio Bart kit was recommended by my naturopathic doctor. I was only able to get through 8 vials of the first box. My body reacted from the start but I was hoping to feel better at some point. I'm assuming that I had/ continue to struggle with Bart moreso than Lyme itself. The vials are potent for sure and I wasn't able to finish this treatment. I tried LDI treatments about a year ago which I still have a reaction from but it's manageable and I get relief afterward.

Probably my last post on this thread just to close out our experience.

Nic, I would love to hear if you saw any change or if you finished up the series.

As Blakeley has come back down vials 10-2, the one day of herx has still been bad but the two days in between have been better. She even went to Wal Mart on Sunday and walked through the store, though only to get a very few items! She says she feels prob 50%.

I don’t understand it all but something has changed. We have never before seen a pattern of bad days to decent days but now we can sort of know what to expect.

Our concern now is what’s going to happen when she finishes the series? Will it all come back?
We are pretty much are impressed with the changes we are seeing and plan to continue and possibly do another round.

Wow, this is very encouraging! Thank you all for so clearly documenting your experiences.

I just found this post and happy I did. I just took my 4th vile off the babesia / Bartonella series. After the first vile I had an awful Herx - felt like I was getting stabbed in my back molars and continue to have sensitivity in my teeth - mostly molars on left side where I have had extractions and root canals. And I had a horrible, debilitating headaches for several days. Past 4 days have felt great. A little nervous about this vile and hoping I don’t have as bad a reaction moving forward. I almost went to ER as well but knew they would be clueless and so just rode it out. I’ll keep updating as well. Best of luck to everyone - we can do this!!!