Justin Bieber Diagnosed with Lyme Disease

So on the subject of is Lyme the root cause of our illness. I questioned this early on. I’m 60 and pretty sure I got Lyme in the early 80.s. However I’ve had ticks on my my whole life. Also it was a very strenuous hot weekend in the yard that triggered my crash. Ticks have been around for thousands of years. Back in the 70.s very few people were sick when I was in HS ans after. Never even heard of autism until the 90s. And no they weren’t all tucked away in institutions. They were full of what is now called the homeless community.

So what’s changed. I had 3 vaccines as a kid. And i think i was maybe 8 years old when I had my first. Lived through both measles types and mumps and chicken pocks. Every kid had them. It was great , free pass out of school for a week we played the whole time off. They were just like a painless rash. Also I was a high strung kid. Hyper active and struggled a bit in schools. I honestly this I would have been autistic had I been given the full immunization program being given today. Also most Autistic kids also have auto immune issues. Food sensitivities etc,

Additionally it’s known that he compound of dental amalgams changed. They were softer and didn’t last as long. My 90:year old mom still has her orginal flings , and she drives still. And works a few days ate the independent living center she’s at.

My fiilings lasted 20:years, when I had them all replaced I got initially sick as a dog, High BP , anxiety. But it passes ove rhe year.

Fast forward 20:years and I was talked into getting travel vaccines prior to going to India, 6 weeks later , I crashed.

After going down the Lyme road for a year I started to investigate other possibilities. Mercury poisoning, which is you’ve ever had silver fillings or vaccines you have received exposure high enough to cause all the same conditions as chronic Lyme.

I decided to give it a go. I.ve make significant progress, fully functional, working still in a high pressure job after thinking 2 years ago I wouldn’t live another year.

However Heavy Metal detox (mercury) is tricky. I can only recommend the Andy Cutler Chelation. Protocol.

Good luck all. Never think you have the answer unless your really getting better. If not keep looking and asking questions. And demanding results from your treatment. If not be open minded. Sure it’s nice to finally have someone acknowledge that your sick. But if they can’t cure you they only know what you know , that your sick. Nothing else.

Interesting Mark, did you test high for any metals? Also if so what kind of test, 6hr vs 24hr, provoked or unprovoked and with what?

I did a 6hr provoked w 500 mg DMSA and showed borderline Mercury and slightly elevated lead. But remember those guideline levels on Drs Data they’re comparing to are for UNPROVOKED tests, and they’re only std dev compared to the general public so they don’t signify unsafe levels. There’s no guidelines for what level is safe on that test when provoking, and I could use an infinitely high amount of DMSA to eventually force my reading higher (Horowitz mentions how he kept upping his DMSA dosage to get higher readings and how this meant more people were sick due to mercury, which makes no sense and made me doubt some of what he says).

So basically I think maybe the testing is bunk but there’s something to chelation. Curious your thoughts on that, did you get “high” readings according to DD and how you chelated

Mark F, thanks for the info very interesting!

I just listened to 3 of Cutlers podcasts/interviews, super interesting.

Few questions

1.). Were you able to confirm that you had high metals using his DD hair testing method?

2.) did you have your amalgams removed safely? Or was this before you knew about the risks? I had a root canal/amalgam removal last year on a huge amalgam. Don’t remember it bothering me

3.) what are you main symptoms and how much did chelation help? Do you feel like abx or chelation had more positive benefits?


Thanks!

dcd2103 said...
Mark F, thanks for the info very interesting!
I just listened to 3 of Cutlers podcasts/interviews, super interesting.
Few questions
1.). Were you able to confirm that you had high metals using his DD hair testing method?
2.) did you have your amalgams removed safely? Or was this before you knew about the risks? I had a root canal/amalgam removal last year on a huge amalgam. Don’t remember it bothering me
3.) what are you main symptoms and how much did chelation help? Do you feel like abx or chelation had more positive benefits?

Thanks!

1.). Were you able to confirm that you had high metals using his DD hair testing method?

Yes, I had a 3 of the counting rules in mineral derangement which per AC meant a 99.98% probability of mercury toxicity.

2.) did you have your amalgams removed safely? Or was this before you knew about the risks? I had a root canal/amalgam removal last year on a huge amalgam. Don’t remember it bothering me.

Nope, my story is I had 8 removed unsafely 20 years ago. 6 months later i developed anxiety that lasted for years. I eventually was about to manage it someone. Never associated the two events until I learned about ACC. Also my heath crash on July 2017 was 8 weeks after a boatload of travel vaccines. Also common to be delayed. It takes a while for the mercury to convert into the dangerous form. (Sorry I don't know the exact terminology off hand)

3.) what are you main symptoms and how much did chelation help? Do you feel like abx or chelation had more positive benefits?

As you can see in my signature I never took abx long term. I leveled off after about 6 weeks and then my gut gave out so I stopped. No doubt for me chelation. Also here the best part about ACC. Since Mercury prevents your body from absorbing and utilizing minerals/nutrients. Much of his protocol is matching up the supplement with your symtom. So even while chelation takes a long time, I was way better just switching to supplements that help you support a mercury toxic body. Also nobody's making any money off this. I get most of my supplements off Amazon. Also you can chelate with a OTC supplement but there org you can buy low does of these and DMPS/DMSA and really helps chelation for many. The new ACC Mercury Detox book is pretty much a must have IMHO. $35 or so. Heck if it prevents you from making 1 bad supplement choice it payed for itself. Symptoms all the same as Lyme. In fact I suspected early on and even more so now that while people may have Lyme, the Chronic condition is from Mercury & Lead

So Ive been meaning to do this for awhile. 2 years ago I scored a 72 on the Horowitz Questionnaire. Just did it again today it's a 17.

WOW I just added this up and it even surprised me!!!! I guess I no longer fall into the class of being clinically diagnosed with Lyme.

dcd2103 said...
Wow that’s amazing that your Horowitz msids score went down that much! Thanks for the info
I listened to a bunch of his videos and went through thr newbie stuff. I get that you need to take it every 3 hrs for 3 days. But how many days off after that 3 day round do you take before starting another round? Don’t see that mentioned.

Also, do you need a prescription for DMSA?

I did 3 on 4 off when when I started I now do 4 on 3 off. 72 hr min between rounds But that takes awhile. Need to be sure your adrenal ps are in good shape or al least supported.

There a site to get DMSA And DMPS.

You have a lot of questions and lots more to learn. Best to join the Andy Cutler Chelation Facebook group. There’s a Flow Chart that you really need to follow, also could not have done this without the support group.

Mono is ebv, right ?
Girlie, Yes.
Wisco woman - could you post the link for the Jon Stewart tape or tell me where you saw it? I googled it but didn't see anything.

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Isn’t she the daughter of Stephen Baldwin - Alec’s brother?

what I think about this is:
1. Each tick seems to carry totally different viruses/bacteria etc. Which is why it is SO hard to treat. We all have totally different illnesses from it and they cannot figure it all out
and
2. It is depressing because if people like Justin Bieber and Yolanda Hadid- both of whom have tons of money and endless exposure and access to the best of the best; If they cant find someone to fix them then it seems pretty hopeless! Like if there were someone who had really figured this out how to fix them then they would have access to it.
and
3. It is good it is getting more public exposure- maybe more research is being done. but I think it may be a long time before they figure it all out.
4. I hate lyme disease

I’m really curious to see if all of these celebrities who get very sick have the MTHFR mutation. I feel like most of us do.

Bieber is scheduled to be on Ellen - I will watch it - curious about what he will say about lyme.

I think it's a combination of Lyme and mold that are causing many of these autoimmune diseases. One in four people don't have the gene that recognizes mold as a foreign substance, and 50 percent of the buildings in the US are water-damaged. Think about the numbers of people who could be affected by biotoxin illness. It's scary.

HeartsinPain said...
I’m really curious to see if all of these celebrities who get very sick have the MTHFR mutation. I feel like most of us do.

A nurse at the clinic I used to go to said that she's never seen anyone with these illnesses (lyme, cfs etc..) without an MTFHR mutation