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CalmLittleBuddha
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Posted 2/16/2020 5:22 PM (GMT 0)
Hi everyone, I just order a bottle of Monolaurin, has anyone ever tried this supplement before? I read that it can help boost your immune system. I can not seem to get rid of my Candida overgrowth so I am hoping that this helps with that. I am a little worried of starting it because the last time I tired an immune booster (LDN) it caused me to have more pain, do you think this will cause a herx? Thank you for your help!
astroman
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Posted 2/16/2020 6:07 PM (GMT 0)
I never herxed from it and am taking it again for my annual "gut reset" (was 2-3 times a year before).
Ever take HCL (stomach acid)? - this can help control candida too.
And D-limonine also helps.
Oregano is supposedly the best for ridding yeast.
the bigger your army, the better the results. just a little here and there makes yeast immune it seams.
saraeli
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Posted 2/16/2020 6:12 PM (GMT 0)
Monolaurin makes people herx, as it has powerful antiviral and antibacterial properties. Good stuff, but start slowly if you are hoping to avoid a herx. I don't know much about
its use for Candida.
CalmLittleBuddha
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Posted 2/16/2020 6:14 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Astroman, I will look into HCL, I have never heard of that or D-limonine. I have been taking an oil of oregano pill for almost a year now that that LLMD gave me. I am wondering if I need a better probiotic right now I am taking a garden on life 90 billion With 15 stands.
Saraeli, thank you for that info, I brought a 300mg pill and will start by taking it just every other day, that is good advice,
elvin
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Posted 2/16/2020 6:48 PM (GMT 0)
The pellets are better that the capsules, or that what I gather at least. I only took the pellets.
CalmLittleBuddha
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Posted 2/16/2020 7:49 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you for you input elvin, what benefits did you notice from taking it?
elvin
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Posted 2/17/2020 12:43 PM (GMT 0)
It took most of my symptoms away slowly After taking it for a year and a half. I stopped because it was making me gain too much weight but I will cycle back on it eventually.
I had several herx moments because its very strong. I would go very slow with it.
Some people report not digesting the pellets but just took it with food. Good luck!
CalmLittleBuddha
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Posted 2/17/2020 1:50 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the info Elvin, did you gain weight on it because it is sourced from coconuts?
elvin
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Posted 2/17/2020 10:17 PM (GMT 0)
Well it’s made from the fatty part of coconut milk which is pretty fatty. If you look at the label for the pellet kind it tells you the fat content. Its almost all fat but I didn't care and needed to gain weight at the time anyway.
saraeli
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Posted 2/17/2020 11:02 PM (GMT 0)
I find this confusing. The brand I have contains 5 calories per capsule of 990 mg monolaurin. Lauricidin (a popular brand) contains 27 calories for 3000 mg.
elvin
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Posted 2/18/2020 2:06 AM (GMT 0)
I might be wrong but it sure felt like eating a couple of teaspoons of it everyday made me fat quickly. It’s a fatty acid and it only has 1 other ingredient. It has the consistency of hardened shortening.
I don’t Know how the body stores fat versus calories but it would be interesting for someone to check out.
Some people on here have trouble keeping weight on so that might be helpful. Anyway, that was just my experience.
saraeli
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Posted 2/18/2020 2:17 AM (GMT 0)
Oh, interesting. I just scrolled up and noticed you took the pellets. Those seem to be little compressed fat bits, so that makes much more sense now. Capsules and other forms would provide the same amount of monolaurin but without the fat, for people for whom that is a concern. Good to know!
elvin
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Posted 2/18/2020 11:29 AM (GMT 0)
Actually the capsules have the fat too. Coconuts have 3 or 4 types of fatty acid that kills germs and have other benefits too. Monolaurin is the most potent and what you get in the pellet and capsules is monolaurin with the other fatty acids removed. Although, the Inspired Nutrition brand has some of the other fatty acids still in it, I believe.
Some people say that coconut with all of the fatty acids is more potent than any one of them by its self. You can get coconut oil capsules at any store but you’d have to take a lot of them to equal the amount of monolaurin in Lauricidin.
One thing about
it being fat is that it can get to any part of your body especially the brain. I had several brain herx feelings from taking it but they subsided with time.
Anyway the gaining weight wasn’t a huge issue and I felt like I could ween off a bit.
elvin
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Posted 2/18/2020 11:30 AM (GMT 0)
Also, I hear the capsules aren’t as potent at the pellets.
The Dude Abides
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Posted 2/18/2020 11:59 AM (GMT 0)
HealingWell posts about
monolaurin here:
https://bit.ly/2ulitfq
Personally, I've taken Lauricidin with zero effect. I was taking a full scoop of the pellets in one dose.
elvin
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Posted 2/18/2020 2:50 PM (GMT 0)
I used the inspired nutrition brand Which is a slightly different composition than Lauricedin.
Also a therapeutic dose is three scoops I believe. I only got up to about
a scoop and a half or two. It helped me get rid of many symptoms though. Also many people said that they did not digest the pellets, it went right through them.
They worked very well for me although I’ve heard others say they didn’t work at all.
I made the mistake of chewing up a few pellets on accident a few times and it made me feel a very strong herx, with high heartbeat, anxiety, sweating etc. I hadn’t felt that way since college when I took too many mushrooms, ha! It only last about
short time though.
I used to take 2-4 coconut oil capsules as well just to get some of the other fatty acids.
Donjr
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Posted 2/19/2020 3:31 AM (GMT 0)
If u have gut issues the pellets do go through you and I called the makers and they said take lipase a digestive enzyme if that is the case and bam worked great and now my gut is way better too.
elvin
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Posted 2/19/2020 9:59 AM (GMT 0)
Awesome, glad to hear it!
1Sunshine7
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Posted 2/23/2020 2:58 PM (GMT 0)
The capsules made me herx badly for the first 4 days. I was stuck on the couch and could barely move. It's advised to slowly work up to the desired dose. You may have to
open up the capsules into food.
I personally haven't tried the pellets. I've seen an improvement after 4 months with both the EBV and candida so thinking about
decreasing my dose soon. I'm unsure if/how it's affecting the Lyme.
The fat content was not a concern since weight gain was not an issue with me; I have been dealing with the opposite.
Quin
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Posted 2/23/2020 4:55 PM (GMT 0)
A recent in vitro study found that monolaurin didn't work.
https://www.lymedisease.org/seven-herbals-kill-lyme-disease/
elvin
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Posted 2/24/2020 9:19 AM (GMT 0)
It worked for me? To be fair, I’ve never tested positive for Lyme so I might just be dealing with coinfections but it definitely helped me.
elvin
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Posted 2/24/2020 11:50 AM (GMT 0)
Also, you can find studies that say otherwise like this one.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26457476/
elvin
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Posted 2/24/2020 11:56 AM (GMT 0)
Also, go read some of the reviews on amazon for either brand. There are tons of people saying it helped them although I know Some are probably fake, most of their stories sound familiar enough for me to believe them.
MedicalNerd
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Posted 4/19/2022 10:46 AM (GMT 0)
I know this post is fairly old, bt my llmd recommend starting me on monolaurin bt she couldn't give me a clear answer on if I was safe trying it since I'm allergic to coconut ( and most raw fruits and veggies due to oral allergy syndrome) also anyone else have gallbladder or pancreatitis issues? Don't know if that would be safe either due to monolaurins fatty content and I can't digest fats properly because of my gallbladder or pancreas issues I'm concerned it'll make stomach issues a bit more complicated. Anyone else allergic to coconut? I thought monolaurin wasn't actually made of coconut bt rather a certain chemical found in coconut? Thanks
Garzie
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Posted 4/19/2022 12:02 PM (GMT 0)
ref monolaurin and other brand names for the same thing -
i just thought it worth highlighting that there is lots of confusion on the internet about
two different chemicals here
1, lauric acid - the fatty acid found in abundance in coconut
2, lauricidin - or monolaurin (both names for the same thing) which are a chemical derivative of lauric acid - but not found in coconut
number 2 is thought to have some strong antimicrobial properties - not number 1
many people on the internet confound the 2 - thinking that coconut contains lauricidin
its thought that there may be a pathway in the body that converts 1 into 2 - but this is conjecture and has not to my knowledge been demonstrated or identified - you can however, see how it might add to the confusion.
ref effects - some people here report very strong herx from even a few pellets of number 2 per day
so i would start slow and low
this unlikely to be an issue for those without a gall bladder - as these low doses are only tiny amouts of fat - and these particular medium chain fats tend to absorb in the gut without the need for bile from the liver in any case.
whether or not there is any trace left of coconut - assuming the lauric acid the producer started with even came from coconut - would depend on their manufacturing process -
my guess is that there are no longer any detectable levels of proteins from coconut ( its normally the proteins in foods that are the allergens - not the fats or sugars ) and that allergy response is therefore unlikely - but whether you feel its appropriate to risk it will depend on how severe your allergy to nuts is - nut allergies can be very severe indeed in some people - others have more of a sensitivity that cases only mild gastric upset.
but as above - other reactions are common with lauricidin and this could be confounding
perhaps the manufacturer would be likely to answer you on coconut allergy if you emailed them
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