Treatment for infections while on blood thinners

Hi all,

I've had lyme, bartonella and babesia for almost 13 years. I got my first blood clot in 2012 (leg/lungs), right before my lyme diagnosis. They found no underlying cause of my clots accept for a positive anticoaguIant blood test (the one that makes me more disposable for developing bloodclots). I was tested for cancer, heartfailure and no one in my family have had it. I was put on warfarin for 2 years, and did shots for 4 months while i was on abx because of possible interactions with my bloodthinners. I recently searched the forum and found some posts about bloodclotting linked to tick infections. At least it seems that many seem to have a clotting/coagulation problem with these infections.

After my first abx treatment and 2 years of warfarin my lupus anti coagulant bloodtest was negative, therefore we decidedd to stop bloodthinners.

Symptoms of infections went away, but I relapsed mid 2016. And just 3 weeks ago I had to go to the ER with heart attack kind of symptoms. Turned out to be another bloodclot in my lungs, ECG OK, heart ultrasound will be done in a few days.

So I strongly believe that the new clot was formed because of my returning lyme symptoms. I have been on shots for the last few weeks, and tomorrow my tests will be ready that determines which bloodthinner i can or must use. This is for the rest of my life. I will also be very surprised if my anti coagulant blood test shows negative.

I read a lot of mixed info about lymetreatment (also supplements) and interactions with bloodthinners. Some say stay away, may interact or may have a bloodthinning effect (which I know many of the Buhner herbs does). But if the reason I keep getting clots is Lyme, I do not want this to stop me from trying to get better. Also read that if you have thicker blood, Lyme is more difficult to treat.

To my question:

So many of the herbs/supplements I'm taking/want to take says consult with doctor if on bloodthinners. I am currently on shots, so i'm not sure if it matters as much as if you're on tablets. But I guess I can't do shots forever.

Any of you guys currently on bloodthinners and doing OK while treating infections?
What kind of bloodthinners are you on?
What kind of treating protocol for infections?
Any precautions I need to take?
More frequent INR measurements at my doctor perhaps? (I believe this one only applies if you're on warfarin).

Thanks a lot!

Tommy

Indstead of stopping or not starting, just wonder if one can be put on shots for a period? I did this for some months during abx protocol.

dcd2103 said...
RJD have you been tested for antiphospholipid antibodies? This would cause clotting. I know we've talked about the possibility that you have SFN. Antiphospholipid antibodies are extremely common in autoimmune SFN. I had a blood clot (DVT of arm) as well in 2012 right before my neuropathy started.

I was tested for it in 2012 when my first clot appeared, negative back then. I guess they have tested me for it this time as well. I will know at my appointment tomorrow. I'll keep you posted!

bluelyme said...
bvt does both very well...

Bee Venom, right? Just to be sure..

bluelyme said...
yes ... pharma is trying to isolate constituents for various reasons. its lasts 24-48 hours in blood stream is a potent pain remedy and sapi declare in her paper its one of the only substances to clear borrelia biofilm. my raynauds and claudation are all but gone ...see honeybeehealers.com for more on ellie lobel protocol...
also lumbrokinase on a empty acts as systemic enzyme cleansing up fibrogen the main culprit of no flow

Thanks, i'll look into it. Also read some about lumbrokinase and nattokinase as natural bloodthinners. Should be very effective, read that it can reduce clots by 48% within 2 hours. But not sure if it's done enough research on it so it can actually be replaced by warfarin or other bloodthinners. Would you happen to know? Found one article but that was from 2006. Maybe something more up to date? I've already been through 2 clots, so will it be a safe enough bloodthinner....