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The RO for this is a lot higher then the flu and its just in the beginning. With about 30 times higher death rate. If 50 % of the world population get sick in this over a few waves that some predicts. It drops from WHO current estimate from 3.4 % to 2 %. That is 75 million dead.
The spanish flu killed so many because it got so many sick, not that it has the highest death rate.
Do you really think China would take those measures and tank their economy with it just being like the flu? Or that italy would close schools in the whole country and no spectators in any sports for a month?
The current drop in China cant be trusted as they need to get people back to work. But they have also made quarantines in a size that never happened before. Mandatory to wear masks etc.
My hope is that this burns through fast but that it mutates and becomes weaker in 2 months. Or that they find some very good treatment.
I hope people read this and understand that it is not as significant as an issue as the media or governemnts are making it out to be.
COVID-19 is far less contagious than the seasonal flu. Yes, it does have a higher RO, but many of these numbers are still over exaggerated.
The mortality rate from the current disease ranges from 0.5 to 2 percent, and is significantly lower than the mortality rate from the 2002 SARS outbreak (9.5 percent) and much lower than the 2012 SARS outbreak (34.4 percent).
What I find particularly convenient is that DARPA was doing research on a “novel Coronavirus” to be used as a bioweapon.
Read here:
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/bats-gene-editing-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/In the articles conclusion, written by the wonderful Whitney Webb it reads:
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Research conducted by the Pentagon, and DARPA specifically, has continually raised concerns, not just in the field of bioweapons and biotechnology, but also in the fields of nanotechnology, robotics and several others. DARPA, for instance, has been developing a series of unsettling research projects that ranges from microchips that can create and delete memories from the human brain to voting machine software that is rife with problems. Now, as fear regarding the current coronavirus outbreak begins to peak, companies with direct ties to DARPA have been tasked with developing its vaccine, the long-term human and environmental impacts of which are unknown and will remain unknown by the time the vaccine is expected to go to market in a few weeks time.
Furthermore, DARPA and the Pentagon’s past history with bioweapons and their more recent experiments on genetic alteration and extinction technologies as well as bats and coronaviruses in proximity to China have been largely left out of the narrative, despite the information being publicly available. Also left out of the media narrative have been the direct ties of both the USAMRIID and DARPA-partnered Duke University to the city of Wuhan, including its Institute of Medical Virology.
Though much about the origins of the coronavirus outbreak remains unknown, the U.S. military’s ties to the aforementioned research studies and research institutions are worth detailing as such research — while justified in the name of “national security” — has the frightening potential to result in unintended, yet world-altering consequences. The lack of transparency about this research, such as DARPA’s decision to classify its controversial genetic extinction research and the technology’s use as a weapon of war, compounds these concerns. While it is important to avoid reckless speculation as much as possible, it is the opinion of this author that the information in this report is in the public interest and that readers should use this information to reach their own conclusions about the topics discussed herein.
---- The claim that the virus escaped from a Chinese lab – promoted by CIA warmonger Tom Cotton – was a hoax spread by State Department outlets (why would they feel a need to preempt the bioweapon angle unless they were worried about
someone proving it was not weaponized?
---- There is no valid explanation of where this came from (Chinese people have been eating bats for thousands of years)
---- The US government and Mike Pompeo in particular are obsessed with attacking China financially[/list]
---- The US State Department and the CIA were 100% responsible for the attempted color revolution in Hong Kong
---- As soon as the color revolution in Hong Kong fizzled out, all of a sudden this virus popped up
---- The virus has done extreme damage to the Chinese economy at the exact time that the US State Department was calling for attacks on the Chinese economy
So, in two months COVID-19 killed – 3,000 Sick., mostly old Chinese – a tiny 50 deaths per day out of 1.4 BILLION Chinese. In China on average Seasonal flu kills 88,000.
Here is an easily disgestable post that puts the numbers into perspective:
As you will see below on top of the 75/80,000 Confirmed Cases – There Are At LEAST 3/4 MILLION cases with no symptoms or so mild nobody notices them.
The World Population is of the order of 7.8 billion. The population of China is of the order of 1.4 billion. The World population minus China is of the order of 6.4 billion. 4691 confirmed cases and 67 reported deaths (outside China) out of a population of 6.4 billion does not constitute a pandemic. 4691/6,4oo,ooo,ooo =0.00000073 (in percentage tems 0.000073 %).
64 cases in the US which has a population of approximately 330 million is not a pandemic.
(Feb 28 data): 64/330,000,000 = 0.00000019 (In Percentage Terms 0.000019 %).
Less than 6 DECIMAL PLACES … 0. 000 000 17/73
The fearmongering is absurd. So, why do I really think China would take those measures and tank their economy with it just being like the flu? Did they take these numbers, I don't know that, the media told me they did. Or that italy would close schools in the whole country and no spectators in any sports for a month? Certain areas they have, but they could be on the basis of believing the overexaggeration.
---- So MILD >>> 95% Of Cases >>> will nto need to go to the doctor!
Dr. Craig Dalton is a public health physician and conjoint Associate Professor at the University of Newcastle, Australia. He is a former CDC, Epidemic Intelligence Service Officer and runs Flutracking.net one of the largest national surveillance systems for influenza-like illness in the world. There are many countries with cases that haven’t even detected their first cases yet. They may have thousands of cases before the first case is detected. Why? Because most cases wont go to a doctor. In fact, most likely 95% of cases are mild
(allowing for surveillance biases towards more severe cases).
https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/48606151-craig-dalton/5413058-update-analysts-are-starting-to-understand-Another expert on the COVID-19 says in many cases it is so mild you would not find most cases without mass testing and looking for it.
Marc Lipsitch, professor of epidemiology at the Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health. He noted that Guangdong, a province in China, conducted surveillance - testing of 300,000 people in fever clinics - to find about
420 positive cases.
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“If you don’t look, you won’t find cases,” he said.
https://www.propublica.org/article/cdc-coronavirus-covid-19-testWHO Director-General’s
opening remarks:
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As of 6am Geneva time this morning, China has reported a total of 78,959 cases of COVID-19 to WHO, including 2791 deaths.
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Outside China, there are now 4351 cases in 49 countries, and 67 deaths.
Our greatest enemy right now is not the virus itself. It’s fear & rumours!
https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19—28-february-2020So, outside China there is a tiny insignificant numebr of total deaths. Being, evidently, and predominantly the usual: the old. Those with serious underlying medical conditions, and those near death. Yes, Lyme patients would of course and should be more worried about
any virus and wash our hands, but the amount of fearmongering is absurd, plain and simple. Most here think Corona is out to get them.
As for recoveries??Recoveries are already surpassing the total number of daily new infections for the first time. That occurred on February 19th, according to Johns Hopkins University tracking, when there were 439 new cases and approximately 1,800 recoveries.
The trend has continued since then with fewer than 600 new confirmed COVID-19 cases each day and an even greater number of recoveries.
https://www.statista.com/chart/20943/new-daily-confirmed-covid-19-cases-and-recoveriesYes, it really is jsut a Virus in viral terms, not that dangerous. This virus has already been written. It’s just a repeat of the H1N1 Swine Flu (SARS, MERS, BIRD FLU, EBOLA) in the latter case the most dangerous, but totally blown out of proportion to scare Americans and garner bioweapons funding – they all run the same – fake propaganda virus playbook.
So How Did SWINE FLU H1N1 PANDEMIC END. Well, At The End Of 18 months of Swine Flu – Fear-mongeringThe World Health Organisation WHO declared the pandemic over & during the 18 months it had killed JUST 18,500 people globally; averaging the figures of lab confirmed deaths – from the 214 countries that report to the W.H.O.
That averages out at LESS THAN 90 (as in Ninety) …. Swine Flu Deaths Per Country.
In Hindsight the 18 months of relentless attrocity propaganda headlines, were over an insignificant, irrelevant virus – killing on average just 90 People – PER Country !!QUOTE W.H.O OWN WEBSITESomebody said...
6th August 2010 – As of 1 August 2010, worldwide more than 214 countries and overseas territories or communities have reported laboratory confirmed cases of pandemic influenza H1N1 2009, including over 18449 deaths.
LINK TO W.H.O. for Confirmation Of Above Fact:
https://www.who.int/csr/don/2010_08_06/en/
And – This CARONAVIRUS, mark my words, or at the very least have them in the back of your mind, will be a repeat!
Caronavirus Took 2 Months/60 Days To Kill 2,400 (ie a TINY 40 Per Day)...of old, sick, frail, immuno-compromised persons.
---- Up to 95% of Infected – Have Symptoms – So Mild – They Won’t Even Notice
---- and in most countries – hasn’t even reached a THOUSAND infected
---- Regular Annual Flu – Kills 88,000 …Chinese per year
---- 7 Million Chinese… Die Of All Causes Per Year
---- vs- Caronavirus – UNDER 3,000 !!!
It’s an insignificant irrelevance – the rest is Rinse & Repeat VIRAL FEAR MONGERING from the big pharma companies who have stock in creating the perfect problem reaction solution.
ANd what do the experts at the UK National Health Service, published in The Indepedent have to say? On the 28th of Feb. 2020, we read:
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“As a member of the public….. you might get… coronavirus but your chances…. of being ill …. and in hospital is not high, not at all. On a person by person basis IT IS NOTHING TO WORRY about
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-uk-deaths-nhs-intensive-care-flu-wise-men-protocol-a9361916.htmlSo – Total Prepping Required – if you are one of the very few that do get infected - and NOT one of the 90/95% infected that exhibit NO symptoms or symptoms so MILD – you would’t even notice them, then it may be prudent to perhaps – buy a small box of paper hankerchiefs/tissue, wash hands and travel to the doctors.
Initial Offical: GOVERNMENT CONFIRMATIONCanadian Government/Health Canada states:
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“coronaviruses are common …..and are typically associated ….with mild illnesses,
similar to the common cold.
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Those who are infected with COVID-19 may have little to NO symptoms.
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You may… NOT KNOW ……you have symptoms ….of COVID-19 because they are similar to a COLD or flu.
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/symptoms.html(& see Quotes At Bottom)
For the very few that do get infected and observe noticeable symptoms, typical signs include:
---- A RUNNY NOSE
---- A COUGH
---- A SORE THROAT / Fever (high temperature).
The vast majority of patients – at least 97 per cent, based on available data – will recover from these without any issues or medical help.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7987001/death-toll-killer-coronavirus-10-times-higher-average-chinas-hubei-province.htmlLest We Forget, there have been 53 suspected Cases Out Of 300 MILLION Americans.
Yes 2,400 Died Of Caronavirous in 2 months (60 Days) – An Average >>> Really VERY TINY >> 40 Deaths A Day
(Caronavirus Has Managed 2,400)
---- And Studies/Reports State whilst there are only 80,000 Confirmed Infections – There Will be >>> 10X that number
YES 3/4 MILLION + with Symptoms SO MILD – they Won’t EVEN NOTICE THEM.International News Channles, I'm not going to get into the hilarious fearmongering alternative news channels that feed off of fear.
Russia Today states:
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Already Macau CHINA , the world’s biggest gambling hub, …..will allow casinos to…. resume operations from…. February 20…. after authorities imposed a two-week suspension to curb the coronavirus’ spread, authorities said on Monday, Macau has not reported >>> any new cases of the virus>>> since February 4 … officials said (As At 20 Feb). There have been >>>> ONLY 10 … confirmed cases of the virus >>> in total there. Government services, which had mostly been suspended since the start of February, ….. have gradually resumed operations this week.
https://www.rt.com/newsline/481005-macau-casinos-virus-fear/2,400 deaths and new cases plummeting!
DEATHS >> Predominantly Sick, Elderly, Immunocompromised, & usual already on their last legs ….. out of 1.3 BILLION CHINESE.
NB 10 February 2020 BLOOMBERG states:
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The new coronavirus might have infected….. at least 500,000 people in Wuhan, ….the Chinese city at the epicenter of the global outbreak, …..by the time it peaks in coming weeks. But…… most of those people…..>>>> won’t even know it.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-08/virus-outbreak-in-wuhan-may-soon-peak-with-more-than-5-infectedLOS ANGELES TIMES states:
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Thousands of people in China and elsewhere ….have been infected ….. but have had…>>>> such mild reactions that >>>> no one even noticed,- said Dr. Tom Inglesby, director of the Center for Health Security at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-01-24/china-coronavirus-panicThe UK’s NATIONAL BBC News comments:
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Re-INFECTED – HAVING SUCH MILD REACTIONS >>> NO ONE NOTICED
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FROM THE LARGEST STUDY TO DATE (The paper by the CCDC, released on Monday and published in the Chinese Journal of Epidemiology, looked at more than 44,000 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in China as of 11 February
So Known Infections Quoted In Study – 72,436 x 10 = 724,000 Who Will Have Had Symptoms – Too Mild – To Notice, ie. >> ¾ Million
Scientists have estimated there could be …..10 times as many people infected ….. as are ending up in the official statistics.
That ALSO means the….. overall death rate IN THE REST OF CHINA (Outside Hubei) is likely to be >>> lower than the 0.4% (rest of China) reported in this study (ie 10X LOWER – Making the death rate potentially ONLY 0.04)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51540981So, there is proof of precedence – how COVID-19 runs.
Post Edited (birthdaysuit) : 3/4/2020 6:35:13 PM (GMT-7)