Going to Give DesBio Babesia/Borellia Kit a Shot

Jillymac3, so glad you found this thread helpful. The herxes from the vials have been so horrible for my daughter. But, she had also experienced weeks at a time previously in the bed with those same feelings from antibiotics (or just Lyme in general), maybe not so intensely, so I feel it wasn’t too surprising.

If you are feeling better, keep at it. I may start another thread later if we continue with DesBios treatment, just to document our experience.

Best wishes!

She is 18 and has been bed ridden sick for a little over a year.

These nosodes deal only with pathogens. The rest you gotta still do: electrosmog avoidance, organ support, heavy metal support, eating very correctly, allergy free etc...

My daughter and I could get rid of lyme relapses with Borrelia nosodes, but we could reach remission with intensive herbal and other homeopathic treatments.

Herxes will still happen, so it's a must to use whatever binders, lymph support, liver support you have in hands.

And while a nosode treats one infection at a time, other infections will resurface during treatment (like candida, other fungal infections, viruses etc), so it's necessary to do rotations or use herbs in between to support that too.

I hope you guys get improvements. In my opinion, nosodes are not to be used as solo treatments, as with everything else.
you know the story: you get the super right treatment, you feel better, then after, you're flat on your back due to herxes. Exactly!!

Good morning
So I am on my 8th vial of Des bio - i had a rough start with first few vials ... massive teeth pain. Got better between 3-7 and now starting back. I woke up with a swollen face above area where I’m experiencing pain in teeth. I’m a little nervous about this but not sure I really want to go to my oral surgeon as I’m in process of trying to make an appt with biological dentist. Any input on whether I should be taking an antibiotic along with Des bio right now? Nervous about infection- I have amoxicillin and thinking maybe just take it to be safe. I think all the lyme hiding out in my tooth canal teeth and cavitations!! Ugh

Saraeli thank you for your response ... going to try to call the biological dentist tomorrow but nervous to get any work done in next few weeks ... as I have a family I would never want to expose to the virus and it’s pretty bad here in CT. Bad timing!! But yes would love the work done soon with ozone. I’m thinking this infection must be lyme! I have such horrible dental health which is now so obviously linked to my overall health. Wish I knew this years ago. I was given amoxicillin for my teeth a few weeks ago. Didn’t take the prescription because he ended up giving me a stronger prescription- clindomycin I think.
I spoke to my natural path doc today and she gave me bacteria tox and told me if I wasn’t feeling better by tomorrow she suggested I take the antibiotics to be safe.
Thanks again for your input!!!

Blakeleysmom- Thank you for the feedback ... I had forgotten to take binder to detox last week... I’ve been taking GI detox with charcoal and zeolite ... you think I need to switch to silver? This may be why I’m struggling because not detoxing well.
Good luck to Blakely .. sending prayers she gets thru the triple protocol and feels better!! 🙏

The homeopath who managed my DesBio treatment said the same thing as you did, Blakelesmom - silver for microbes, kits for specific infections, and the full detox kit. There's also a one-vial DesBio product called HerX that is formulated to speed detoxing to ease a herx. Good luck!

I hope it settles down soon, Jillymac3. It sounds like your homeopath is aware of what needs to be done. Everyone has their own preferences of what they use to accomplish the same goal. Praying for good results for you.

We have used the Herx product, as well as Lyme Plus drops, which have seemed to help a lot.

"Blakeleysmom" said: "Shasta, I’m very interested in these other treatments to get my daughter to remission. I want to make sure I understand. I get what you are saying about making sure we aren’t dealing with metals, or EMF issues, etc"

-- Sorry for late answer. I just meant that we were able to reach remission WITHOUT the nosodes, meaning, we covered most sides of the lyme puzzle problem.... such as EMF, some chelation, detox support, non allergenic diet etc.
The nosodes helped us as antibacterial strategies, to lower the bacterial load. And high potency nosodes helped us not to fall ill again (it stopped all our relapses!).

You said you used “intensive herbal and other homeopathic treatments.”
--- For reaching those periods of remission, I used Buhner / Cowden / Chinese herbs.
--- Homeopathy: basically organ support, lymph, symptom relief.

Could you elaborate on what that entailed? Or do you mean while you were using nosodes, you were treating things that popped up such as yeast with herbs or homeopathics?
---- Yes, exactly. Once Bb goes dormant for a while, other infections surface and you got to treat them, one by one....
---- We used herbs or other homeopathics (like the more widespectrum Sanum nosodes, that treat many infections, they are less specific nosodes and reach more types of pathogens).

We are not only doing the nosodes but are using many supplements which we were already doing for many months: liver support, GI support, thyroid, etc.
Blakeley has improved her diet drastically and eats no sugar or processed foods.
---- GREAT!!!
---- I'm now on the Medical medium diet. I eat tons of natural sugars and carbs, no processed foods.
----What I cut recently (after lyme) were dairy (including butter), eggs, soy, canola/rapeseed and corn products.
-----I find it helps immensely.

I do not think that the DesBios borrelia series alone will get Blakeley well. I realize there are many systemic dysfunctions going on, but since you and your daughter have reached remission, I wanted to make sure I’m following what you’re saying.

Does it sound like we are covering the bases? Thanks
----- I suppose so!!
What I used was energy testing (to find what were the rotating pathogens that kept coming up).
But when Bb did not matter anymore, all our treatments became more effective and faster.
I wish your daughter good luck. She's got a terrific mother, for sure!!!

Jillymac, how are you doing now on the Bart series?

My daughter just took vial 4 last night and wow, today has been her worst day in a long time. So tough! Can barely move or walk, severe headaches, panic attacks, screaming out and just out of body experience. Really bad. Hopefully tomorrow will be better. We did not take the vial she was supposed to take tonight. Going to give her an extra day to see if herx will calm down.

Update:
Blakeley is through vial 6, one a day of BB, Bart, then Rickettsia.

Bart has definitely been the worst of the three. We have had to increase her anxiety medicine and make sure she takes it every three hours to prevent panic. The herx can last until time for next Bart vial it seems.

Still not out of bed hardly at all and all the previous things I stated above are all still occurring. Pretty rotten time for her...but, she did get a puppy a couple of weeks ago which has totally helped get her through a lot of days.

Blakeley has made it through the “triple protocol” of one vial every day of BB, Bart, and Rickettsia for two months now.
Summary is that BB reactions were strong again this time but maybe not as bad as last series.
Bart vials were horrible every time, even on the way back down. Terrible depersonalization, anxiety, Neuro symptoms, emotions, physical symptoms , etc.
Rickettsia was not without reactions but by far, the easiest of the three.

We are not sure what we will do next as we are currently dealing with a terrible bout of reflux or something where blakeley can’t keep anything down. Dr appt later today.

Options are to go on maintenance doses for all three infections or could go through another series kit etc. I feel confident that Bart is not taken care of yet and not sure if symptoms are also BB as well.

We are taking a week off without anything and see where she stands symptom wise to filter out what was herxing from the vials versus what she’s left with. Will post update next week.