Celery Juice-Lyme

I recall Georgia Hunter making this comment:

Georgia Hunter said...
Celery is one of the most contaminated vegetable we eat. I would not want to concentrate that and drink it. Nutrient wise, there are better vegetables to concentrate.

It's #11 on the EWG's "Dirty Dozen" list:

https://www.ewg.org/foodnews/dirty-dozen.php

I'm not sure if that has any bearing, but I thought I should mention it.

If we eat based off the dirty dozen we almost can’t eat any of the healthiest vegetables. I think it’s on the consumer to purchase organic produce and clean as needed.

Tick41 said...
If we eat based off the dirty dozen we almost can’t eat any of the healthiest vegetables. I think it’s on the consumer to purchase organic produce and clean as needed.

There's a difference in eating a whole food and concentrating the juice from said food. Of course, one is unlikely to eat one bundle of celery -- and, certainly not two. I understand your point about the "Dirty Dozen" list. Humans have polluted so much of the air, water, and soil that we have to do the best we can with what's available. Even organic crops have pesticide residues. The idea of "Better living through chemistry" hasn't exactly turned out as expected.

Per what I have read Celery will help with Lyme disease, but you may herx in the process. Go to lupusrebel.com and look for his write-up on celery juice. Here's a piece of info from that write-up:

"dere Celery is known for decreasing inflammation by starving pathogens in the body, such as harmful bacteria and viruses. (4)

It contains a host of mineral salts that work like an antiseptic, which have the ability to break down the pathogens’ cell membranes, killing and destroying them. (9)"

So, if you have Lyme, like I do, do not get surprised if you get unpleasant symptoms. It is killing my Babesia at this very moment. I know this because I own a frequency generator and have a specific a Babesia toxin (detox) program, which I have been using to get rid of the toxins faster and easier. I get a positive read (through muscle testing) for those toxins after drinking the juice and the detox program has been helping me, ecause Babesia toxins, like some of the toxins from some of the other Lyme pathogens aren't always pleasant for the body.

I hope this helps,
Simeon

I no longer have lyme since 2009. My daughter too.
When we started celery juice in May last year, we felt some gut reactions and that was it.
Then I continued, and OMG, slowly, I had so many pains I had to stop.

I think celery juice, when taken correctly, will cause reactions to almost everyone.
I have extreme nerve pains, that take time to build up, but when they do, they are excruciating.

Plus the gut reactions, that happen to me on and off.
My husband who never have lyme, now has eczema and arthritis, and he reacts even more than we (daughter and I).

I used celery juice in my nostrils some time ago. You know, people use beet root to dissolve biofilms, and I decided to use celery juice instead. It was THE strongest biofilm breaker I ever tried (in my nose)!!!! I didn't know I had catarrh there, until I dropped a few drops of celery there: both nostrils got FULLY blocked with a thick catarrh and I was not even sick (no cold, nothing).

I crashed badly from the experience, for hours. Then I could finally breathe through the nose. Next day, the catarrh was less thick, and kept thinning. Then one of my ears popped, and I felt intense pain there. Intense!! I again crashed... Then I felt my inner ear felt lighter. I guess some catarrh got thin and the celery juice entered though my inner ear canals?

Even today, when I again use celery juice in my nostrils, I would feel my eyes in pain, I would still get thinning out mucus from it. So I know this is an INCREDIBLE mucus breaker. Cistus incanus is a joke compared to celery juice, sincerely.

Anyway, this is not just a juice, in my opinion. It's powerful medicine. It just does not feel like any herb I took in the past. With herbs, I would herx minutes, or hours after intake. With celery, it may take days to feel something.

My main reactions are in the nostrils, eyes (I don't drop in the eyes, but I drop in the nose, and my eyes react), gut, it opens my appetite for sure, in many of my back/ neck nerves and in the joints. I feel bones and joints after I take celery. If I don't give a pause, my whole body gets like wood: stiff. I suppose it does something to my nerves, but not sure what. I know other people who react with nerve pains too....

There are literally thousands on celery juice.

If you go to ANY group of people sharing their experiences with celery juice, you'll find awful photos of rashes, and the main topic of conversation are crashes, rashes, activated infections, nausea, diarrhea, fatigue, muscle pains etc

Most people who take celery juice have no idea about herxes, they only call that 'detox reactions'.

Basically 90% of posts are about detox reactions with celery juice.

In this case, celery juice looks more like a nocebo effect than placebo....

The mineral salts in celery could be causing a herx if they were lacking in minerals and attachment sites were filled with heavy metals instead. The heavy metals could be getting released and causing a back up in detox pathways.

April 2019, after a VERY stressful year dealing w/mother-in-law's estate, my lyme came out of remission accompanied by babesia. Two courses of anti-malarials coupled with abx, kicked it back--somewhat--but my lyme "tell" was still there. Heard about celery juice & though sceptical, decided to try it.

After jumping around, reading bits & pieces of Medical Medium book on it, started drinking 16 oz organic celery juice in early Sept. Big mistake. I missed the caution that some people might be sensitive & need to start with smaller amount. Five days into 16 oz/day regimen, BIG herx. Took a week hiatus then dialed down the amount to 4 oz/day for a couple wks, gradually raising it up to 16 oz over the next three weeks, where I remain today, almost 7 months later.

My lyme "tell"--pulsating vibration in left foot--disappeared during the first 5 days of juicing but returned when I took the week long break in Sept. It has not returned since. If I miss a day or two of juice, I will experience a herx (no organic celery in my small town so have to make 120 mile round trip often as celery doesn't keep well). If I juice faithfully every day, herxing is minimized. Perhaps the celery juice flushes the toxins better than your body can on its own. I use Nutramedix Burbur & coffee enemas (a la Gerson Therapy) to manage healing reactions.

Overall, I'm a believer. Read something online today about celery containing quercetin. Interesting since Montreal researchers are set to commence a 4-month study in China to investigate quercetin's ability to fight COVID-19. https://www.mcgilltribune.com/sci-tech/montreal-researchers-propose-a-treatment-for-covid-19-170320/

Well I must be healthier than I think, as I never noticed (felt) anything from it. Organic or not, I figure its a good natural food, so obviously doesnt hurt to do it. Although have been in remission for a few years already, I tried it toward the beginning of remission too and , nothing felt.

Then.....there are those that will say or imply..."oh no , you have this and that still harboring deep inside you ect" - maybe they are jealous lol.

(When I was treating, I did herx for about five months straight on Flagil ABX)

Wonder if there is some gene pathway connected with celery juice that is being detoxed in some people?

We understood, Astroman, that you felt nothing with celery juice.
Why repeating that again and again?

In this thread alone, 4-5 people do feel celery juice does something.

As for detox pathways' problems, I suppose it will take maybe more a few decades for someone to take some interest in the subject...

Shasta said...
We understood, Astroman, that you felt nothing with celery juice.
Why repeating that again and again?

In this thread alone, 4-5 people do feel celery juice does something.

As for detox pathways' problems, I suppose it will take maybe more a few decades for someone to take some interest in the subject...

Because im a very inquisitive thinking individual. So far I'v not read what celery juice is technically doing to people, and id like to know. Usually if you stir the pot a little, people become more elaborate with answers/comments.

We do know it increases stomach acid production. So are some of these people actually low in stomach acid?

More lymies here should try this, since they try everything else.

I work in science, in a lab. If I just told my boss this experiment works "good", I "feel" this is the answer, said boss would say, "great, record some documented prof and what your actual findings are".

Im always looking for concrete answers in a plastic world. A "follower" I've never been.

Post Edited (astroman) : 3/21/2020 3:15:12 PM (GMT-6)

I can't see the posts by astroman that shasta is responding to. Is there a way to fix this?