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Is it coming for us all?
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Posted 3/5/2020 3:54 PM (GMT 0)
I’m of the belief that the cat is out of the bag. That this thing has been spreading for much longer than we know.

You can’t have cases if you can’t test positive (see: testing issues & very strict criteria to get tested and diagnosed. This should feel familiar to all of us)

Most places are still struggling to test. Up to 2 weeks-ish ago, you couldn’t even get a test /CDC diagnosed unless you had been to China

If Lyme has taught me anything it is that CDC is FAR from perfect.

The number of Americans tested has been removed from the CDC site. The number of suspected cases has been removed also.

When the tests finally get out there, it’s gonna be like turning the lights on in a roach motel. Stay safe.
Posted 3/5/2020 9:36 PM (GMT 0)

oregonhay said...
hi, I have been free of lyme since Feb 7 or in remission. But last week on Wednesday I started coming down with the flu. It isn't bad. But of course I wonder if if its COVID-19. I just got over the lyme bioweapon, and 10 days later get another bioweapon?

I don't know if I have it but my research tells me that by day 8 or 9 if my lungs fill up with fluid, then YES, it might be COVID-19. That will be Thursday or Friday.

Meanwhile because like all of us here we have a mini-degree in self treatment, I have been taking NAC and Alinia that was left over. Oregano oil, vitamin c, vitamin b, vitamin d. It works great! The NAC really knocks down the snot. The Alinia works great, you are almost completely normal for about 5-6 hours, then you need to take it again.

ALSO here's something amazing. Disulfiram has a method of action against coronavirus.
I guess I have a use for the 500 extra pills I don't need for my friends and family.

Disulfiram can inhibit MERS and SARS coronavirus papain-like proteases via different modes.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29289665

I haven't taken Disulfiram because my doctor thinks it might have hurt my thyroid. I am having Thyroid issues somethings about T4 not converting my T3. I don't understand. I have a follow up appointment in a month if society still exists. (Anyone know of a treatment?)

The idiots at the satanic medical health industrial complex are using tylenol and won't tell you about these anti-virual medicines. They probably know about treatments, but its only for them. They will pick and choose who lives, and give everyone else subpar treatment. Given everyone here knows about Lyme.

I personally would refrain from calling the health industry in its entirety a satanic apparatus, for two reasons, it stigmatizes Lyme activists and makes it easier for the criminals to discredit us, and two, simply for the reason that there are many good people working for these for profit companies; good doctors who will diagnose and treat what they were taught to learn. Some doctors simply know what is going on but if they speak out they certainly will be slandered, shunned and could possibly lose their jobs at the direction of the board, who takes orders from 'Big Pharma' and insurance companies.

COVID-19's new cases to recoveries are decreasing, meaning recoveries have already surpassed new cases. Most people, 95% - 98% who aquire the virus will have mild to no symptoms and will not need any treatment. 3/4 million have the virus and all of these people will be fine compared to the old and immno-compromised that have a higher chance of getting sick. What I'm tryong to get at here, is if you think you have the virus, go to the doctor. But in most cases you will habe mild to no symptoms and will recover from it.
Posted 3/5/2020 9:38 PM (GMT 0)

astroman said...
This "somebody" person is pretty flippin' popular.

Lol, yeah, if you try to quote an article, healingwell will automatically put the "somebody said" in. I didn't know how to take it out.
Posted 3/5/2020 9:57 PM (GMT 0)

Cignet said...
It's hyperbole, it really is just a load of fearmongering. This is someone who hasn't listened to the news for perhaps 3/4 years. I've developed a healthy skepticism towards their claims.

This really won't be that bad. Deep_sleep It's harder to deal with it closer to home, I agree, but it really won't be that bad. Your proximity might be a factor in how you feel about things. You have however taken good precautions, arguably such practices used to be normal but with supermarkets have become less so over the past 60-70 years or so...

China aren't tanking their economy, you realise there are economic wars too? Remember Trump imposing tarriffs on China last year? Make no mistake, economics is war too, especially between countries, it's basically another outgrowth of imperialism/colonialism. The world benefits if China's economy tanks. Yes this is how things go. Avarice really is the root of so many problems in this world, ask yourself, is $1000 a bit too steep to pay for a COVID-19 test? Because it is... especially if people are so worried about a pandemic.

Give it 8 months and we'll be talking about the flu again. I guarantee it.

I guarantee it as well, they do this pandemic fear-mongering every election year and after 8 months it disappears never to be talked about again.

I think the reason people are so afriad is because they trust that a corporate owned media, that has Big Pharma., military, and arms dealer shareholders would NOT outright lie to them. The fact of the matter is, they can LEGALLY lie to anyone, and create fictional stories and broadcast them as real via the authorizarion of the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, since passed by a hijacked congress every 4 years, whether it be a republican president or democratic president, makes zero difference.

What that means is the media can produce PsyOps, ie. Psychological operations and social experiments on its viewers, and yet most people would not think the media would maybe exaggerate stories, when they can legally lie to them! They didn't pass the law for nothing.

That is one problem today. It is the belief that the media always tells the truth, when they have the legal authoriry by the government to lie to you. Hence, the free-press is free, but when it comes to the TV, it ain't. It is highly controlled, and owned by 6 corporations all with similar for profit interests.

As for the Corona Virus, yeah, it's real but it isn't the apocalyptic pandemic that is out to fet us all like the media wants us to think it is.

If anyone wants to see how much money shereholders make off feetmongering these diseases google, "India News: Who Made the Most Money off of COVID-19."

Simply by having stock in big pharma. companies creating expensive vaccines, recombinant kits, etc., speculators make millions. One in fact, who was awarded the medal of freedom by Obama 10 years ago made a gain of 128,000,000 mil.
Posted 3/5/2020 10:05 PM (GMT 0)
What is with the hysteria in this thread and this virus in general?

There are over 320 million people in this country. Yesterday I read that 60 people in the US are sick with it. Now the NY Times claims it's 163.

This stupid virus would need to kill a good 10,000 people in this country before it's even remotely concerning.

This is a joke.

This whole thing looks like media hysteria and government propaganda. How come you can't get a straight answer about how many sick people there really are? Every news site claims something different.
Posted 3/5/2020 10:30 PM (GMT 0)
Well, the virus is hardest hitting right in my county, people are dying here. Why are people in this thread so polarized? Being dismissive of people’s concerns is arguable more foolhardy than being overly cautious. If you over prepare what is the consequence? Missing out on some social engagements. Dismissing it as a government conspiracy, what’s the consequence? Well I think we all know. I am not terrified, but I believe the elderly and the medically fragile are just as valuable to society as the young and healthy. It disgusts me how the language used in regards to this whole thing reveals how disposable certain demographics are. I love old people. I love people with pulmonary issues. I love people with autoimmune disorders. I love people with diabetes. I love people with chronic illnesses. And I love young and healthy people too. We of all people should know that viral infections are dang complicated and can cause a lifetime of problems. For crap’s sake. The only hysteria I’m seeing in this thread is ridiculing those concerned.
Posted 3/5/2020 10:34 PM (GMT 0)
My new doctor is in Seattle. They told me today I can reschedule last minute and they won’t charge me. Which is nice because that’s where a lot of cases are right now. Hoax or not, I don’t want the flu or any other virus.
Posted 3/6/2020 12:05 AM (GMT 0)

ChickNorris said...
Well, the virus is hardest hitting right in my county, people are dying here. Why are people in this thread so polarized? Being dismissive of people’s concerns is arguable more foolhardy than being overly cautious. If you over prepare what is the consequence? Missing out on some social engagements. Dismissing it as a government conspiracy, what’s the consequence? Well I think we all know. I am not terrified, but I believe the elderly and the medically fragile are just as valuable to society as the young and healthy. It disgusts me how the language used in regards to this whole thing reveals how disposable certain demographics are. I love old people. I love people with pulmonary issues. I love people with autoimmune disorders. I love people with diabetes. I love people with chronic illnesses. And I love young and healthy people too. We of all people should know that viral infections are dang complicated and can cause a lifetime of problems. For crap’s sake. The only hysteria I’m seeing in this thread is ridiculing those concerned.

Thanks for your post.

We really don’t know how it will play out - and certainly no need to panic... but it certainly doesn’t hurt to be cautious when out in public.
Posted 3/6/2020 1:27 AM (GMT 0)
ChickNorris. Great compassionate post. My sentiments exactly. Thank you for taking the time to express your concern for everybody.
Posted 3/6/2020 2:29 AM (GMT 0)
Just watching our news now - here in BC Canada - 8 new cases today (one was from Seattle visiting here) in Vancouver including first case of “community transmission” -( woman with no relevant travel history.)
Posted 3/6/2020 6:49 AM (GMT 0)

ChickNorris said...
............................ I am not terrified, but I believe the elderly and the medically fragile are just as valuable to society as the young and healthy. It disgusts me how the language used in regards to this whole thing reveals how disposable certain demographics are. I love old people. I love people with pulmonary issues. I love people with autoimmune disorders. I love people with diabetes. I love people with chronic illnesses. And I love young and healthy people too. We of all people should know that viral infections are dang complicated and can cause a lifetime of problems. For crap’s sake. The only hysteria I’m seeing in this thread is ridiculing those concerned.

Excellent post, A-men. . Yah, why is it OK if certain sick, "immune-compromised", or "fragile" people get ill or die? They dont matter any more? Many people will be old before they know it, and they will then think differently.

New flash: "chronic lymies" right here are, to varying extents, "immune- compromised". There are obviously tests for this. That might even be why you got sick in the first place and why your not recovering (yet).

And kids with severe Primary Immunodeficiency , well, they are at high risk. Without monthly IVIG, they would not live long to begin with. The cost is also insane and not "doable" for many of the the "under-insured" without bankruptcy.

Im not overly worried about this, but it is a notable concern. Would be great if it just dissipated away some time soon. Fact is, we dont know for sure whats up ahead.

Post Edited (astroman) : 3/6/2020 12:00:21 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 3/7/2020 9:06 AM (GMT 0)
I found this interesting about SARS

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mental-sars/alarming-mental-problems-seen-in-sars-survivors-idustre5bd4xw20091214

"To look at these effects long-term, and to further investigate chronic fatigue symptoms often reported by SARS survivors, Lam and his team looked at 233 SARS survivors an average of 41 months after the study participants had gotten sick. The study participants’ average age was 43 years, and 70 percent were women.

More than 40 percent had “active psychiatric illness” at the time of follow-up, the researchers found, most commonly post-traumatic stress disorder, depression, somatoform pain disorder (chronic pain due to psychological factors), and obsessive-compulsive disorder.

Forty percent reported some degree of chronic fatigue and 27 percent met diagnostic criteria for chronic fatigue syndrome."

For covid-19 there has been documented liver, kidney and lung damage for some of those that get well.

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 3/7/2020 2:09:42 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 3/7/2020 3:53 PM (GMT 0)
India has 34 cases and dont test that much. Thats also true for Sweden and other countries. We only test if you have been in some areas and have certain symtoms or been in contact with a confirmed case. There is a lot of people with those symtoms that want to get tested, but there are no resources. With over 160 cases in Sweden community spreading has started, but no testing for that for the moment.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

It takes a few days to 2 weeks to get symptoms. Then 2-3 weeks for it to get worse, so as most cases in Sweden came from going to Italy recently, those are lagging behind.

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 3/7/2020 8:57:16 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 3/7/2020 4:32 PM (GMT 0)
I watch the evening news each day. Still not that bad.
Here in Canada the risk is still low
Total cases:

Ontario 28
British Columbia 21
Quebec 2

Apparently my province of BC has tested more than all of USA

Thousands of cases in China
Posted 3/8/2020 12:32 AM (GMT 0)
Its not like the apocalypse will happen.

In addition to zinc / elderberry drops I picked up some disinfectant wipes for my phone and auto steering wheel. That's all I'm doing.

My friends crazy "prepper" neighbor stocked up on boxes of ammunition. Those people are scary. Me thinks he's watched to many zombie shows.
Posted 3/8/2020 2:38 AM (GMT 0)
Health minister reported this evening a jump to 27 positive/active cases. (In B.C.)

It’s not over yet.
Posted 3/8/2020 6:13 AM (GMT 0)
I would use 70% alcohol or 1000 ppm bleach - my lysol and clorox wipes actually seem to have some ammonium chemical that I dont know if it is effective. The cdc released this: https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2020-03/documents/sars-cov-2-list_03-03-2020.pdf
Posted 3/8/2020 4:44 PM (GMT 0)
100,000 cases globally
Posted 3/8/2020 5:31 PM (GMT 0)
Per this AM, Sunday, the nursing home in Washington state is pretty much the starting "epic center" of this in US so far.
Posted 3/9/2020 10:40 AM (GMT 0)
Germany and France is now over 1000 cases, Spain is over 900. In my city/region its now over 30. That is without them doing any test even if you have all the symptoms. You also need to have been in China, north Italy, Iran or in close contact to a confirmed case. So there is no tests for community spread.

They are running out of protective gear for the people working at hospitals in Iran and in Italy they are talks about prioritizing cases. They dont have resources to help all the severe cases so the ones that needs the most recources are not going to get any help. Big drop in the markets today with it being down 7 % in Sweden, that is also because of the oil price so not only related to corona.
My understanding is that you should start with treatment in the beginning and not wait until you get a lot worse. Same as with Lyme. Very happy that we have so many things to try if we get any symptoms.
Posted 3/9/2020 1:43 PM (GMT 0)
Here's my 2 cents worth. I don't know if this will turn into a ELE . However, I purchased 2 bags of swimming pool shock. It will disinfect 20.000 gals of water. So don't have to worry about buying bleach. I have a hot tub so one way or another I will use this. I can also use this to make DAKINS SOLUTION to disinfect surgical tools, wounds, etc.

I purchased 5 lbs of MYRRH, which is an anti-inflammatory. Is also a CYTOKINE inhibitor. So that was $20. Don't know if I will ever use it, but its used elsewhere in the world for arthritis.

Finally purchased 5 lbs of CITRIC ACID (VIT-C). If I want I can sprinkle a little bit on my food in the morning. So one way or the other it won't go to waste again ran about 20 bucks.

As for my water situation I am on a well. Being aware that an earthquake could take down the grid, I pulled my 220 pumps and put in a 110 v pump. If need be I can run this off solar panels. I can also pull this pump by myself as I went with 1" poly pipe. Then I could use a bailer to get my water out of the ground.

I won't go into other equipment which I have tucked back in case of an earthquake, but figure I could hole up for several (fill in blank) OPSEC.

Since i volunteer some of my time helping out with monthly commodies. I help deliver food to 165 families each month. Drive down, pick up the food at the food bank, sort it out and then deliver it. One day the food bank had 400 lbs of water softner salt. They wanted to get rid of it, so I took it. Now, the salt with a little bit of know how can be turned into chlorine bleach. The waste product is lye which can be used to make soap, and finally the salt can also be used to preserve food. Not bad for FREE!

As for the virus itself, I'm not worried for my family. When wife-poo was 40 she went back to the midwest to visit family. When she came back, she had acquired GERMAN MEASLES. I used the ubi equipment, then put her under a blue light. By the next day the spots were almost gone.

When I got home (was up in the desert, rock hounding) discovered out 2 year old grandson had the measles also. He was running a 103-104 fever. He would on chew on the end of the fiber optic cable, so could only put him under the blue light. In 40 minutes his fever was gone and he was sound asleep. By morning the spots were not noticable, by that evening, no spots, and he was feeling normal. So, it will take care of that virus that quickly I don't imagine I will have to much trouble with any virus...only time will tell!
Posted 3/9/2020 2:28 PM (GMT 0)
Has anyones llmd recommended any additional immune support or put out an email about traveling to the office etc..?
Posted 3/10/2020 12:14 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Claude783
Would you please post more information about the blue light you are using?

I have been using 650 and 830 nm red led lights for a few months with positive results. As I understand it, the blue light at 715 nm is very good for bacteria but the ones on Amazon are all cosmetic. Maybe I have not done enough research but I would like to purchase one that was trustworthy as is the one you are using.
I will appreciate any information.
Posted 3/10/2020 4:13 AM (GMT 0)
Well first of all the blue light which you are looking for is 470 nm. I have two LED lights which are rated between 470-475.

However, the filters I use the most are from Original Light Filters for the Dinshah treatment. Check out Dinshah Health Society.

I also have the 660 & 830 led bulbs also. But it's a little to much for me at this time. So have gone back to the light filters with a 100 watt bulb behind them.

If you go to my earlier posts you will get the information on light therapy.

Books

Into the Light by Dr. Douglass: this is the bible on ultraviolet blood irradiation (ubi)
Let There be Light by Dinshah; this is the book for learning about which light is used for "what" disease.
Posted 3/10/2020 5:05 AM (GMT 0)
I happen to have some allicin on hand, garlic is always mentioned as antiviral. It is super expensive though. I also have hydrosol colloidal silver, again expensive. I heard some people think liposomal c could help, again expensive (and people buying and reselling). I have heard of people making there own colloidal silver and liposomal c, but i never got to that point.
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