COVID-19

As for coronavirus symptoms, I personally take what the medical authorities say with a grain of salt. How many Lyme/coinfection symptoms have never been acknowledged in medical texts and therefore are discounted? Bartonella scratch marks are not even known/acknowledged by non-LLMD’s as far as I can tell.

Fever - Many of us are seemingly incapable of running a fever and chronically sub-normal temperatures.

Diarrhea/Intestinal Sx - I am no medical expert, but I have a hunch that gastro symptoms may occur in a serious illness even if the infection is not in the GI tract. May be part of the body’s way of dealing with the infection or from changes in the body, etc. Who knows? I don’t doubt it could be part of the symptom picture.

When I read the initial report - fever, cough, shortness of breath - I doubted then that those were the only symptoms. Of course, the authorities will go by whatever rigid list they are told and exclude anything else.

Another thing - I often don’t have “typical” symptoms or reactions to things. I can have the opposite of what’s expected, like antihistamine keeping me awake at night and making me sleepy during the day. Try getting a medical professional to believe or comprehend that your body doesn’t follow their textbook instructions.

potsnpans said...
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"Has anyone else heard reports or rumors that some recovered corona patients in Wuhan reported negative after recovery and then later positive? I wonder if they’re just catching it again or if this is fake news , Or in accurate testing.I guess we’ll know When Westerners start recovering more . But testing is already hard to do here."

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might be false posirtives
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive

Oh yeah, all those people who were sick, but tested negative because the Chinese government said this is getting expensive and the number of cases needs to go down.

Maybe they could come up with a clever name for it, like "Post-treatment Wuhan disease syndrome".

An aspect of this virus you may not be aware of.

There are two possilbe situations, one is called shift. In shift the surface of the virus changes, this can be either good or bad. That might make any vaccine useless as you are now dealing with a mutated virus, this also means that the test will not pick up the new virual change.

The second situation is called drift. This means that "someone" who already has a virual infection gets infected with this virus. Now what occurs is tha the two viruses exchange "rna" material, creating an entirly new virus. Again this can go either way.

An example was in 2005 when Bayer Internation released it's flu starter stock to 15 differnt countries. One lab tech ran a test he was not required to, he injected ferrets with the starter stock and they died.

Turns out that the seed stock had both the regual flu virus (highly infectious) and had the Bird flu (hight mortality). Had this been made into a vaccine for the general population it could have done what is called re-assortiment. Meaning a new virus with the high infection and high death rate.

Because this is a rna virus, don't expect any vaccine to containt it, as it will mutate. In the case of the aids virus it began mutation when the azt first came out. So, they added other drugs to try and box this virus in.

OOPs , it was Baxter International.

As for the mutation rate I don't have enought information to determine how quickly it is mutating. There is still the problem of reassortment. With (unknown) number of people, there is a good chance that drift is/or has taken place.

I hope there is a reliable and honest source (how can we trust?) that shows this virus is natural and not lab designed. I read one article and seen this on the news supporting its natural, - was hoping there would be some elaboration on that. How do we trust media today?.

I dont automatically jump on the a conspirator bandwagon, dont want to not to rile up people, but this is an uncomfortable thought.

**I would find it re-assuring to know this was natural. ** We may never know (?).

Some people connecting this to the conspiracy one world power/control/depopulation movement that I will not mention here nor the names it goes by (this is not the place for it), but thats how far some are suggesting on other "outlets". So lets NOT bring this up here.

I would love for them to be 100% wrong. Hope this virus was/is 100% natural - I would think there would be more proof on this presented to the public.

Post Edited (astroman) : 4/1/2020 12:24:44 PM (GMT-6)

potsnpans said...
Are they saying the same thing about SARS and MERS? ..or is it just this one?

I dont know, maybe they did, but the current population fears/attention/danger of COVID-19 push the past SARS and MERS aside.

The world was concerned about China's coronavirus research in 2017.
https://www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487

"sanitizer wipes" can be made with dowsing a paper towel with a mixture of 70% isoprople alcohol mixed with 30% water to slow evaporation.

BEWARE: A coworker may have done just this cleaning around the office just an hour ago, not knowing I'm on DSF.... I developed a major migraine headache like I've never had before within ten minutes. This is getting insane.

1000Daisies said...
I will boldly share this controversial opinion...
I am getting close to the point of wanting to deal with the consequences and risks of getting this virus... instead of living in what our society has becoming. This is so much more complicated than a few weeks/months of inconvenience of being quarantined (which I have respected).

Still wanting Bedford Falls instead of Pottersville.

Well, consider being in physical proximity to others can possibly harm others. It wont be forever. Some are carriers vs symptomatic. You might have had it already, untill there are antibody tests, not all will know.

Besides mixing with grocery shoppers (possible sick people)................its now temporarily an introverts world, vs the extroverted world it usually is.

Im thinking this is more difficult for extroverts (being captain obvious here), but could be equally as difficult on introverts living with roommates though - stuck with them. Gotta be creative with your time. Hobbies that dont require socializing helps. In between alone nature retreats, I could spend un-interupted time forever in my home shop, as thats what I like to do. I would go nuts if I were a city apartment dweller with this though.

Certainly is inconvenient for everyone. The sad part- If Westerners started this earlier, we might not be in this current position.

Post Edited (astroman) : 4/2/2020 12:17:07 PM (GMT-6)

Counting flowers on the wall, now that don't bother me at all, smoking cigeretts till dawn...the covid 19 theme song!