Anyone success with "Rebooting the Nervous System" tips mentioned in Toxic by Neil Nathan?

Hi all, I finally got to the book Toxic by Neil Nathan, because a lot of my treatments failed and now I'm bedridden with hard CFS and trying to find new options.

After years I'm now sure, what happens now inside me, if Lyme & Co are active or now. Results are speculative...
Also, CIRS and MCAS are maybe in game, now I do lot of investigation in IMD lab Berlin...

The fact is, my problems are from autonomic nervous system/overreacting immune system/autoimmune reactions.

Is here anyone, who tried some tips from book "Toxic"?
- Frequency Specific Microcurrent Therapy (FSM)
- The LENS (Low Energy Neurofeedback System)
- Osteopathic Craniosacral Manipulation
- Annie Hopper’s Dynamic Neural Retraining System (DNRS) (saraeli have some good experiences, right?)
- Interference Fields neural therapy (CAMS (Crosby Advanced Medical Systems)

Something is too experimental for my thinking and open mind! I am interested in clear experiences. Much of it is also not available in our country, some treatments like DNRS are available for buy to home using. Maybe FSM machine for home-own treatment is here? I welcome any information!

What are your views on these sometimes unscientific treatments? Has the main treatment improved for any of you then?

Thanks a lot,
Martin

Neil Nathan speaks a lot on how the main culprit is usually something triggering the cell danger response (mold or infection). Treating the cause is always the main strategy. Checkout the recent podcast he did on the better health guy, he goes more into detail on this than in the book.

I’ve been treating bart on a clinical diagnosis, main strategy is abx and herbals. Mold came first. Doc suggested I incorporate som4 of the exercises from the the book accessing the healing power of the vagus nerve. Neil also mentions this in his.

Neil also says that you’re not going to be able to use any of those techniques to turn of the cell danger response if the cell knows it still isn’t safe. He says that on certain occasions the cell can get “stuck”, but it often is shut down for a reason.

Interesting reading! Thanks all, I also hope for more discussion ;-)

@saraeli: what your symptoms are better with DNRS? For is really bad some type of inflammation - I think it cause my CFS, dysautonomia and OI. I write "some type" because I don't know, if its inflammation from immune/autoimmune over reacting, CIRS, MCAS or infections...

Martin, when I started DNRS I also addressed MCAS at the same time through a low-histamine diet and quercetin, so those MCAS treatments might deserve some credit as well. That said, the symptoms that improved within a month of starting DNRS were:
POTS and dysautonomia
Appetite and digestion
Hormonal imbalances (including adrenal fatigue and menstrual issues)
Exertion intolerance
Anxiety, depression, irritability, resilience
Ability to handle stress and new foods without "paying for it" later
Peripheral neuropathy, paresthesias, random nerve pain (like fibromyalgia tender points)
Joint pain, tendon pain, muscle weakness
Dizziness (vertigo, disequilibrium, and Mal de Debarquement Syndrome)
Dental pain
Fatigue
Cognitive ability (finding words, remembering things, concentration)
Retinal swelling condition (central serous chorioretinopathy)

Within three months, as I mentioned before, I was at about 85% better, sometimes more, and that was despite the extreme stress of moving.

One symptom improvement that I credit to the MCAS changes (diet and quercetin) is that brain fog went away entirely. DNRS might have helped with that, too, though.

DNRS is supposed to be practiced for one hour each day for six months, plus there's a change in mindset that you have to adhere to at all times. I was fairly reliable with the mindset changes, but I only practiced the "steps" for about 15 minutes per day, and only for about three months. In that time I made great improvement, but when I stopped (distracted by packing up my house and moving to a different town) it took a few months but the old symptoms gradually returned. I intend to begin the practice again soon, but I'm finding it hard to find the time (I need to be alone to do it effectively, and am never alone!). It's reassuring to understand the neural pathways that perpetuate my symptoms and to know what I can do to fix them. It's much, much more difficult than taking a pill, seeing a bodyworker, or hooking yourself up to a machine, but it's definitely worth it if you can make the commitment. It is real healing with a solid scientific basis.

Everything on your list is very interesting to me. I'd love to try them all!

I believe this is the website:

https://retrainingthebrain.com

I have been tempted more than once....

$249 for the 'cheapest' set of videos.

The prices are on the site.

Hi, Martin. Yes, DNRS was hugely helpful while I was doing the regular practice and for a few months after, but as I said, I didn't do it nearly as much as I was supposed to and symptoms have returned. I'm repeating this just to make clear how important it is to do it regularly....

The program does not use a lot of technical language, and even if it did, your English is excellent and I'm sure you'd do fine!

I have an AmpCoil device, which combines PEMF (pulsed electromagnetic frequencies), rife technology, and voice-based biofeedback. PEMF is similar to FSM but I'm not sure if they are the same. I have found (with great disappointment) that I am too electrically sensitive for frequency-based treatment. It's hard for me to keep up with regular use because after every session I have 24 hours of brain fog, headache, and malaise, regardless of the setting. I felt like this prevented me from benefitting from it, even with regular use (every other day for a year). The company and I determined that I am the allegedly rare person who is just too electrically sensitive for it. This surprised me because other electrical exposure (laptop, other screens, sleeping beside wifi, phone, etc.) does not seem to affect me as strongly. I tried going outside for grounding immediately after using the frequency device, and it helped, but not enough. I know that you didn't ask about the AmpCoil (a very cool machine!) but I wanted to share that electrical sensitivity can arise as an issue with frequency devices, especially those that contact your body directly. They're also really promising! Just something to be aware of.