Not taking COVID vaccine

How likely do you think it will be to not take the COVID vaccine by claiming that you have lyme disease and have a weakened immune system? I'm sure even LLMDs will not give me a note saying that I can get out of taking the vaccine, due to the political pressure that would be placed on them. They would probably immediately have their licenses revoked.

Does anyone have any plans on how they can get out of taking the vaccine?

There will be no manditory vac law in the US, there’s guns out there and pissed off people

I am seeing this topic often. I agree that getting the vaccine now is to premature because we need more data about safety of it and immune reaction and what is the best vaccine to take, since there are several on the "game". People should wait a little more time until we get more data about safety and how long the vaccine provides protection.

But i dont understand why people should not have the vaccine when all data show safety for majority of people. Vaccines are being given to elderly in the first place, wish have a compromised immune system due to age. The problem could be instead an overreactive immune reaction instead of making you more immune system weak. I found an article about LLMD patient on COVID vaccine, wish we dont know much about it, but once more safery data is released, people should think twice, because what is better, getting the virus and take the risk of dying or getting the vaccine and lowering that risk? Truth is, eventually, if one doesnt take the vaccine he will be infected one way or another, then what?

I will wait for more data, but once i know its safe i will have it, just because i dont want to take the risk of dying. But thats me. Anyway, here is an article were a Chronic Lyme sufferer speaks about it and what he will probably decide, he speaks also about Dr. Daniel Cameron opinion, but that about the flu vaccine, the COVID vaccine is not yet well known. She got infected with covid 19 and suffered for months, but it didnt affect its lyme symptoms as she said. So basically she got ill from the virus itself and had a difficulty fightiing it. Now, what is better, take the risk of having the wild virus in you blood and suffer badly, perhaps even die or getting the vaccine? If i get the virus eventually what would be worst for me? But perhaps, one can think the vaccine could be worst than the virus itself? We dont know yet. Its complicated.

It is a decision everyone has to make. Nobody should be forced. People should balance the risks and make a decision for them selfs.

Any way here is the article read it i think you will find it important:

https://globallymealliance.org/dear-lyme-warriorhelp-15/

Post Edited (isitlyme) : 12/3/2020 1:21:33 PM (GMT-7)

I have heard that they are going to force people to take the vaccine. They will be giving us cards that state if we have taken the vaccine. If we have not taken the vaccine, they will restrict access to essential services like airplanes, grocery stores, and traveling across state lines and entering gov't buildings. Our places of work will likely also require the card to continue being employed.

I will not be taking this shot. Any shot which is based on the MRNA scares the hell out of me. I don't know that the effects won't show up in 2-3 generations down the road!

If this vaccine is so darn great let Gates take it, also our politicans as they are the ruling class and need to be protected!

The actual death rate from this virus is very, very low. Mostly people with other medical problems. But is your worried about this go and purchase some horse womer...it works as well as HQC.

I have to say I am worried about the covid vaccine being required for school. Some states already don’t allow personal or religious exemptions. A medical exemption is pretty much impossible to get. I have 3 kids in public school which luckily I live in a state with personal exemption. There’s always talk of it being taken away. My son had covid in the summer and it was mild for him (slightly worse than a cold but definitely not as bad as flu). The biggest issue is that his taste and smell is still a bit off almost 4 months later. He is now 17 and had a bad reaction to meningitis vaccine at age 12. So, not interested in covid vaccine for kids based on his experience with getting covid.

I don’t think it will be required for most of us adults unless you work in the medical field.

Also, I’ve read that the covid vaccine will be under a different branch of vaccine injury compensation. It will be much harder to get compensation if you’re injured. It’s already pretty difficult.

I am not planning to get the vaccine but will be open-minded and willing to look at the data. I wish researchers would spend more time looking for markers on why this is so deadly for some and basically nothing for others.

Just to add something important since there are updates almost everyday on it. The most problematic thing is to could be the autoimmunity that could be triggered by these vaccines. Some researches are cautioning about people who have autoimmune diseases i thing. if any one can share more data about it, would be good. I am doing more research about it

Deep_sleep said...
I might take it during the summer as earliest if there are no problems with it. I will especially look at how it affects others with chronic illness.
My girlfriend doesn’t want to take it, but I look forward to being able to socialize more and will weight the pros and cons of taking it.

I think it will be quite likely that a lot of jobs will demand that you have taken it to work for them, being able to travel, etc.

My husband and I both work for the Provincial Health authority and for about 5 years they forced everyone to get the flu shot - you had to report online when you had it.

The nurses put up a fuss and it’s no longer mandatory - so I’m thinking they won’t be able to mandate all employees get the covid vax.

I guess the ADE hasn't shown up in the trials so far, so that's a plus. Makes me think they've gotten over somewhat of a hurdle when we compare to the previous:
"In several animal studies for SARS-CoV vaccines (original SARS), vaccine-induced ADE led to worse outcomes than without the vaccine."

I'm more concerned about autoimmune type reactions.. like how my mother-in-law has achey joints to this day from Lymerix vaccine.

The fact that covid can cause a multi-system inflammatory disease (long covid) similar to Lyme is concerning.. so I will be watching closely.. bracing for the rumors and misinformation as well. I will probably be getting it though when I have the opportunity to.

Unfortunately the real takeaway from that article is obscure, and it's that we need more information. Towards the end it says:

"..it's unclear whether the participants who died succumbed to vaccine-related complications, or whether they even received a vaccine at all (they could have received a placebo)."

I assume that info will be made public when the FDA releases the two assessments of the trial data.

I wonder how many people we should expect to die at random anyway.. if we count up all of the people in the trials (73k I think, all over the age of 16) and we consider the duration of time since they've received vax or placebo (6 or 7 months).. obviously it's a non-zero amount.. is it less than 2? Am I thinking about this correctly?

Post Edited (potsnpans) : 12/8/2020 5:05:38 PM (GMT-7)

1: I have no interest in any flu type yearly vaccine. Its a medical scam for profit.

2: I have substantial questions about the efficacy and speedy development of any vaccine

3: These vaccines were developed with previously unused mRNA process (might have the letters wrong,) the science was over my head. I won't buy a first year of a new car design so I'm going to be Guinea Pig for new method.

4: I have questions regarding the alleged use of aborted fetal tissue

5: One of the drug companies stated that one of the components of the their vaccine blocks the enzyme that allows embryos to adhere to womb. There was no comment on how strong this effect is or how long it would last, so if you're of child bearing age I wouldn't get it.

potsnpans said...
Well here come the "rumors and misinformation"...

The truth is harder to believe than fiction. So what if the “rumors and misinformation” turn out to be true? Of course, if they are, you won’t find out until it’s too late.

The linked video is reminiscent of an episode of ancient aliens lol. Facts are diluted in a sea of misinformation. We are at the point where you really don't know what the truth is anymore. Can't trust the media, can't trust government, can't trust what you find on the web so who can you trust? Hard to make an informed decision when it's impossible to verify the "facts".

Post Edited (WV Mike) : 12/9/2020 9:39:19 AM (GMT-7)