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Posted 12/13/2020 8:18 PM (GMT 0)
Hello.

I started Buhner CSA yesterday. A few drops three times yesterday. And a few drops twice today. The back of my head felt some pain so I felt around and feel two swollen lymph nodes. I also woke up with muscle pain today. Could a few drops of CSA a few times a day for just a couple days set off such a reaction of muscle pain and swollen lymph nodes? That’s the one and only thing that has changed in my
Life in the past two days. Or maybe just a coincidence? I’m going to stop for a week and see what happens. But just wanted tour input from you guys. Thx!
Posted 12/13/2020 8:27 PM (GMT 0)
“ Could a few drops of CSA a few times a day for just a couple days set off such a reaction of muscle pain and swollen lymph nodes? ”

- yes
Posted 12/13/2020 8:33 PM (GMT 0)
Yes

I think it’s hitting either Bartonella (Sida Acuta) - as swollen lymph nodes are a symptom OR possibly babesia - and the lymph nodes swelling due to infection/herx
Posted 12/13/2020 8:36 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the responses! But it seems weird that NOW I’d get swollen lymph nodes from herbs? I’ve been on doxy, azithromycin and Malarone more or less since early September with no muscle pain and no swollen lymph nodes. So it just seems strange that a few drops of some herbs would cause that reaction and not from big prescription meds.
Posted 12/13/2020 8:42 PM (GMT 0)

Evanston1 said...
Thanks for the responses! But it seems weird that NOW I’d get swollen lymph nodes from herbs? I’ve been on doxy, azithromycin and Malarone more or less since early September with no muscle pain and no swollen lymph nodes. So it just seems strange that a few drops of some herbs would cause that reaction and not from big prescription meds.

How long between ending Pharma and starting herbs?
Posted 12/13/2020 8:51 PM (GMT 0)
Still on pharmaceuticals. Added CSA as an add on.
Posted 12/13/2020 9:02 PM (GMT 0)
Evanston,

I have been on here for a few years now. I have repeatedly heard similar reports from members who had been on abx and then started herbs and herxed from even small doses of herbs. They are always surprised. I am not!

On the flip side, I have also heard others say they were not getting better or progressing even with full doses of herbs and started making progress after treating with abx.
Posted 12/13/2020 9:06 PM (GMT 0)
Interesting.... So my gut says I should stop CSA for a week and see if everything subsided?
Posted 12/13/2020 9:21 PM (GMT 0)

Evanston1 said...
Interesting.... So my gut says I should stop CSA for a week and see if everything subsided?

If your symptoms are bad enough - I would take a break - a week or so - - BUT if they’re not too bad, I would continue and increase your detoxing as well.
Posted 12/13/2020 9:26 PM (GMT 0)
I doubt you need to stop a whole week. A day or two should probably do it.

Once you get back to baseline, restart at 1/2 the dose you stopped with and increase slowly by one drop at a time until you can manage it better.
Posted 12/13/2020 9:33 PM (GMT 0)
I agree with others - just sounds like the herbs are doing their job and killing some Bartonella. Maybe try some self-administered lymphatic massage to help drain those lymph nodes in your head and neck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA-wi0d7-Ro
Posted 12/13/2020 11:01 PM (GMT 0)
Ok thank you! Just did lymph massage and sat in sauna. I can’t believe how difficult these infections are! I don’t know why I still get shocked from time to time.
Posted 12/31/2020 5:56 AM (GMT 0)
Yes, my armpit lymph nodes got swollen, my neck got someone, neck and head pain, heart issues worsened and pins and needle pain all over my body. It’s the sida acuta , very potent.. usually eradicates when you start slow. I’ll be doing 10 drops until I can handle it.
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