My posts about ivermectin was deleted again, censorship and direct violation of forum rules

There are a small group who post topics on forums that are easily heated and quite often do have hints of conspiracy snd see their side only. Do these people not even notice it?

An outsider or site owner that does not like it can do what they want. Does not really matter what others think. Are you going to verbally prosecute the owner? Move on.

saraeli said...
Do you think that posts alleging government conspiracies are not political? Honest question.

Healingwell.com is privately-owned and legally can censor whatever they want.

Sorry Saraeli, i have overreacted and deleted my post about the observation you made. Although i respect your view, i dont agree with it and continue to say that my posts had nothing to do with government conspiracies issues whatsoever, but are about public health safety that is important for everyone here in this forum.

I dont want to contribute to other heated discussion here, but just want to say for everyone to feel free to comment about this type of problems coming from health agencies or doctors. Its not wrong to post about that, people should know, thats all

Post Edited (isitlyme) : 3/10/2021 4:21:08 PM (GMT-7)

astroman said...
And people don’t know if your info is 100% correct on what is a touchy subject. That would prob be the admins view point.

When posting these things on this hot bed subject matter, the tone needs to be neutral .

Sounding a little irate (yes kind of) at what / who might be the site owner would not be a good move either.

Astroman, all my info is backed up by evidence/links reported in the news or government agencies, i always put oficial links and confirm the sources first. So people do and can know that the info is correct. But as you know, 100% is not warranted in any information these days, i'll give you that, but there is not even one post i made that didnt contain the information from reliable and trusted organizations. I always put links for the sources. Now it up to people to confirm it and check it.

Nevertheless i can have a personal opinion about that information, wish anyone can agree with it or not, and that is another matter. But in terms of information its all there, confirmed. Its up to you or up to all the members to agree with it or not, i respect that.

astroman said...
In the United States, A long long time ago, our TV news used to just deliver the news it did not have an opinion with it.

Now today they offer their version of the news and their opinion/ side of what happened / who should be offended / who is responsible blah blah blah. The Internet headlines are the same way.

Hotbed information could be posted here carefully without opinions and would probably be less likely to get deleted or flagged or locked or whatever is happening.

I am not speaking just about news headlines, but be careful, because when we say that official tv news offer their own version, this can also be considered by some, a conspiracy theory, so i hope your comment is not flagged too. But hey, i agree with you on that, but not so sure from who is out there looking to our posts, right?

What i mean is that I also posted direct info from the health agencies and pharma oficial sites about ivermectin along with some news headlines to "fit" them together...

Girlie said...
I’m wondering if there was a link to an advertisement to sell something -maybe Ivermectin?

I know those have been deleted before - although I don’t agree with it - nothing I can do about it.

Although we often post links to herb stores etc and they don’t seem to be deleted

But in the end - it’s the site owner’s decision/perogative to do as he pleases.

All in all - it’s still a great community here.

Ahhh!!! Now that you mentioned, i recall Christianwithlyme posting a Youtube video were Dr. been speak about ivermectin and were to buy it with a much affordable price. Perhaps it could be the reason, but this suggestion comes only at the middle of the video. Anyway, this could be the reason for this isolated ivermectin comment, it was only one comment, why would the entire thread be deleted. The other posts did not have any kind of advertisement. But Girlie, thank you for your help. I just gave up in finding the guilty or who is contributing to flag the posts. I already reposted one of them and will repost one more in time. So i am not worried. Nevertheless i remember Saraeli mentioning that "someone" complained by email, dont know who that was.

ChristianWithLyme said...
Good to know about the "advertising" rule. Wasn't aware of it. I know Dr. Been mentioned goodrx, but that has been discussed here before multiple times, so I don't think that would be an issue.

Heck - I have often posted links to different sites that are selling herbs/supplements.

1000Daisies said...
If the topic upsets people that much, I don't understand why they can't just skip such threads? Usually, COVID are its own threads, so it's easy enough to skip.

Seriously - for ANY topic, just move on if you are bothered by it. It's so easy to just skip. Or, if you have issues with a member, then click on the ignore.

You can NOT control what people do or do not say. But you can control you. We are never all going to fully agree on any topic here, and everybody has differing sensitivities and triggers. Just because a person has issues with a given topic, it shouldn't prevent others from discussing it.

I'm obviously not a fan of censorship in general, and I've voiced, in the past, how troublesome (in my opinion) it has been here on this forum over the years.

I agree, 1000Daisies.

Equal opportunity allows us to avoid a thread if we don't like what is being said there. Equal opportunity also allows us to create a thread if we want to discuss a certain topic.

Equal protection keeps others from silencing me just because they don't like what I say. It also keeps me from silencing others just because I don't like what they are saying.

Perhaps we could practice this?

It may not always be this cut and dry but would most likely help.

Post Edited (ChristianWithLyme) : 3/11/2021 6:24:19 AM (GMT-7)

Are you appealing remove the "flag" feature?

It seems obvious to me what's going on: your posts are off topic, someone flags them, they get removed by the admin. It would be nice if he notified you, perhaps by email, but I guess he doesn't do that.

Other posts that are off topic survive because they don't get flagged.. and they don't get flagged because they're not controversial.

I understand why you feel your posts are very important. I would never flag one of your posts but I can also understand why others looking for on topic discussion might do so.

Most sensible people don't have the time or the patience to engage in these cyclical discussions.

Girlie said...
Now that I think about it - It’s likely a Mod who is deleting - not the Site Admin .

Do tell...

I deleted the thread because it appeared to have an agenda, either conspiracy or politically motivated or just to stir up controversy. And it was only tangentially related to Lyme. I usually look at these threads when a post gets a lot of complaints, and I have had many recently regarding rule violations. All in all, this is a pretty freewheeling and open forum, but I have to draw a line occasionally.

I hope that helps.

Peter

Admin said...
I deleted the thread because it appeared to have an agenda, either conspiracy or politically motivated or just to stir up controversy. And it was only tangentially related to Lyme. I usually look at these threads when a post gets a lot of complaints, and I have had many recently regarding rule violations. All in all, this is a pretty freewheeling and open forum, but I have to draw a line occasionally.

I hope that helps.

Peter

Peter, thank you very much for your feedback. Would be good to get some help in this. Could you be so kind in helping us to know what was interpreted has an agenda, conspiracy, controversy or political motivation on the threads? From what i know, there was nothing on any of the threads, that suggested anything related to the reasons you mentioned. If you can provide us specific information, this would help use avoiding it in the future. Otherwise, users don't feel free to express their opinions in this forum and are in a environment of terror and fear of being flagged from who might indeed have some type of agenda or political motivation by not agreeing with what is being said and wish does not violate any forum rules. I think that the complaining side, should not be the only side, that should be listened to, if it is, users will feel like they are victims of the complaining dictatorship.

Thank you for your help.

Post Edited (isitlyme) : 3/11/2021 7:03:14 PM (GMT-7)