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Posted 3/22/2021 10:27 AM (GMT 0)
I'm bedbound 20+ hours day and keep getting worse. I can't afford an LLMD but I don't want to give up yet.

I took clarithromycin-biaxin for a few months last year. In 2018 I took doxycycline for a few months. I felt a little better on the clarithromycin. Antibiotics are no longer possible to get.

The house I live in is full of mold. I try to keep the window sills in my room clean (on the main floor), the basement is beyond repair though. The first time i tried activated charcoal it felt like all the stress left my body, I could breathe again and had some energy. Unfortunately it never had the same positive effects after that first time.

I've been looking into starting citricidal or cats claw.

From your experience which supplement/herb would be the best if you could only take one?

Post Edited (R2-D2) : 3/22/2021 4:32:47 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 3/22/2021 1:05 PM (GMT 0)
I'm so sorry that you are doing poorly and being continually exposed to mold. I don't know of any supplements that will make things better if you cannot get away from the mold, but if I were going to try something, then it probably would be curcumin. It could decrease the inflammatory processes that are causing some of your issues. Quercetin might calm down some reactivity. TUDCA might help your liver process out the toxins you're dealing with more efficiently.

I don't think I'd take anything antimicrobial right now and risk increasing reactivity with herxing; I would prioritize stabilizing the body and removal from mold exposure before going after infections.

Is there somewhere else you could stay for a while? Do you know anyone that could help reduce your exposure - loan you an air purifier, vacuum with HEPA filter, encase your mattress and pillows in protective covers, get a dehumidifier for the basement and seal up where moisture comes in? Or just let you stay with them for a few weeks to see if it helps you improve?

Do you feel like you could make any dietary changes? I know we all have different resources when it comes to cooking and ingredients, but diet can be a way to influence inflammation and other symptom-causing phenomena without buying supplements. More veggies, more whole foods, less sugar/caffeine/gluten, reduced processed foods, etc. I know not everyone has the energy to cook or the money to buy healthier things, but sometimes these shifts can make a big difference. My family makes a big smoothie every morning filled with veggies, greens, and a few fruits, plus chia and flax seeds we buy in bulk, and some herbs like turmeric and ginger. (Bulk is our friend!) It's a nice way to start the day with a load of vitamins, minerals, omega 3 fatty acids, antioxidants, and anti-inflammatory compounds. Maybe you already do a lot dietarily, I just think diet can be as important as supplements, or more, so I thought I'd mention it.

Hope you get some great replies!
Posted 3/22/2021 1:34 PM (GMT 0)
I would definitely say Samento. It’s pricey but worth it. I’d also detox daily. Good luck
Posted 3/22/2021 1:45 PM (GMT 0)
R2-D2,

I am terribly sorry for what you’re going through. I have pretty bad mold issues and have been trying to deal with it for years. Have moved twice now. In all honesty, taking any one supplement while in that degree of mold exposure is going to be like trying to bail water out of a sinking ship with a teaspoon.

I would do whatever it takes to get out of that house. Your life could very well depend on it. Realize that others in the house may not notice ill health from it. People who are susceptible and become highly sensitized can be in great danger in that kind of exposure.

This is the most comprehensive site I know of regarding mold illness and help with mold avoidance.
https://paradigmchange.me/
Posted 3/23/2021 3:22 PM (GMT 0)
I agree-definitely try to get out of the house. If you could sell it to someone who would be willing fix it, that would be great. Don't let your house keep getting in worse condition! I have a house on my street with literally grass growing on the roof, the people never take care of it.
Posted 3/23/2021 5:20 PM (GMT 0)

HeartsinPain said...
I would definitely say Samento. It’s pricey but worth it...


Have you compared Samento to a quality cat's claw tincture? I looked into Samento years ago and for me the takeaway was that it was cat's claw with tetracyclic oxindol alkaloids (TOA) removed.. and the removal of TOA likely had more to do with acquiring a patent than it did with making the herb more useful (hence Samento being "pricey"). I have never tried Samento myself.
Posted 3/23/2021 7:08 PM (GMT 0)
saraeli I’m surprised you didn’t say DNRS. Given it’s not a supplement.. if the budget is that limited I think I’d recommend it to start. Maybe add in a universal binder like the ultra binder from quicksilver if possible? Different binders work for different toxins, that one targets a lot all in one.

Ultimately OP needs out of a moldy environment though.

Also if you have an Amazon prime account, buy your supplements on there and return after a few weeks if they’re not helping, but until you’re out of the mold it might be hard to know. Everyone is different
Posted 3/23/2021 9:13 PM (GMT 0)
My one supplement I wouldn’t want to do without is Leaf source (it’s a humic/fulvic acid capsule) so very helpful overall for me.
Posted 3/24/2021 5:20 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the replies.

Until I figure out a way to make some extra money I won't be able to move. The rent for the room I live in is below market value already.

I have noticed that sometimes when I've left the house for even 1 hour I don't feel as sick. It's a challenge with fatigue though to go outside at all.

While I'm living in this moldy environment is there no point in treating lyme?

I'm worried that I'm running out of time, it's already been 5 years since the tick bite.
Posted 3/24/2021 6:02 PM (GMT 0)
There are a few remedies that hit lyme and mould - allicin is one(it is a garlic extract), oregano oil, monolaurin another, ACS 200 Strength nano silver is another take it orally, in a nebuliser and in the sinus areas (a bit pricey but over time this works, I do the occasional IV. You need to take probiotics with these or fermented foods like kimchi etc. because they wipe out the gut biome and that needs to stay as healthy as you can keep it. I am on a tough budget too and there is mould in my bathroom. It helps. Detox strategies help too. These are my fall back strategies when the money is tight. At the moment I am doing just the silver, but if your budget is tight oregano oil is more affordable if you can tolerate it. All the best.
Posted 3/25/2021 7:09 AM (GMT 0)

auzzie said...
There are a few remedies that hit lyme and mould - allicin is one(it is a garlic extract), oregano oil, monolaurin another, ACS 200 Strength nano silver is another take it orally, in a nebuliser and in the sinus areas (a bit pricey but over time this works, I do the occasional IV. You need to take probiotics with these or fermented foods like kimchi etc. because they wipe out the gut biome and that needs to stay as healthy as you can keep it. I am on a tough budget too and there is mould in my bathroom. It helps. Detox strategies help too. These are my fall back strategies when the money is tight. At the moment I am doing just the silver, but if your budget is tight oregano oil is more affordable if you can tolerate it. All the best.

Never heard of allicin before, after doing some research it sounds pretty good.

Is Zhou Nutrition or Allimax a reliable brand?
Posted 3/25/2021 7:26 PM (GMT 0)
Allimax is very good. Good luck.
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