Buhner protocol success rate

Buhner claims that 75% of people that do his protocol feel that they are cured, and another 15% have a resolution of almost all symptoms within 8-12 months. Is this true? Has anyone actually recovered within 8-12 months with his protocol? I imagine he is somewhat biased because it is his protocol but I was interested in personal experiences.

Thats what I thought, or maybe he had done a study on acute infections. I wonder why he would state that

yep - he states its from people reporting to him and other practitioner reporting back - so quite informal - he does not claim he has conducted a scientific study on it.

he also says that complex infections that involve co-infections of two or more organisms can be much more challenging to treat - so i think there is

there is a growing body of research indicating co-infection may be more the norm than single infections

there is also the perspective that people have co-evolved with these organisms over the millennia
note - lyme disease causing borrelia's DNA have been found in Egyptian mummies and 4000 year old men frozen in the French alps - so they may be new to science but they are not new to humans.

given that for the last few 10s of thousands of years until v recently in fact we have lived in nature year round, accompanied by our companion animals and foraging in the wild for food etc - all of the high risk activities for tick exposure - so our exposure was in effect guaranteed. Yet we did not die out as a species due to being incapacitated ( hunter gathering is hard work - a person with chronic lyme would not last even one winter if they could not feed themselves )

so the question perhaps becomes - what has changed in recent years that has rendered us susceptible to this organism / these organisms ( co-infections) - and how is this effecting disease severity and recovery.

I think any of the practitioners only include folks who kept on the protocol and they could declare them a success or failure. If you see a doctor for a year and switch doctors I suspect you count as nothing in their success rate.

Garzie said...
so the question perhaps becomes - what has changed in recent years that has rendered us susceptible to this organism / these organisms ( co-infections) - and how is this effecting disease severity and recovery.

One possible answer is immune system damage caused by increasing exposure to heavy metals over the past century from the environment, food, dental amalgams, medications, etc.

Many of the case studies in Dr. Horowitz's books note that his patients did not get better until their heavy metals were addressed. He mentions heavy metals 116 times in How Can I Get Better? and 157 times in Why Can't I Get Better? (Kindle versions are very handy as a searchable reference)

bro123 said...
Buhner claims that 75% of people that do his protocol feel that they are cured, and another 15% have a resolution of almost all symptoms within 8-12 months. Is this true? Has anyone actually recovered within 8-12 months with his protocol? I imagine he is somewhat biased because it is his protocol but I was interested in personal experiences.

Here is a pretty detailed Buhner success story I ran across that sounds like it took 8-12 months:
https://realfoodrebel.com/success-with-buhners-protocol-for-lyme/

In my world - almost all have treated or are still treating - past 8-12 months for chronic Lyme.

Some are seeing llmd Dr J (DC) or Dr MR (Seattle) and others are seeing the LLND EC (Richmond) I saw prior to DrJ or LLND MB (Victoria)

These are abx, or herbal or combo of abx/herbal protocols

Acute infection can even take several months

“It's more like 15% are cured, 75% have some kind of improvement, the rest didn't see any difference.”

That makes more sense.

90 % cured or symptoms resolved would be great - if it were true.