Liver flush

So Phil Escott the guy I’ve been working with recently (he had psoriatic arthritis and cured it on carnivore diet) suggested I try a liver flush.

Was curious what others experiences have been doing these? Epsom salt and olive oil doesn’t sound too scary, and I remember after my cleanse for my colonoscopy I felt pretty good, lighter and less inflamed, so I do want to try it.

My only concern is is it possible to cause a bile or gallbladder duct obstruction?

i wrote about my experiences with it on this thread dcd

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=4211838

i was also worried about having some kind of gall bladder attack or blockage at first - because at the time i started doing them i was in a lot of pain with gall stones and gall bladder attacks that would easily be set off by eating even just a small amount of fat - but this just didn't happen.

i also read up on it extensively before taking the dive - because of these concerns.
i found an online survey with over 1000 respondents and hardly any had any ill effects at all - and to my reasoning that was as good as proof because if you gave 1000 people with gall bladder disease almost anything then a significant number would report issues - just by the nature of the thing.

the Epsom salts reportedly open up all the bile ducts so that stuff can pass easily - in the 15-20 i have done i never had more than mild discomfort as something passed - and i did pass stones - so i would say the Epsom does do this.
in fact i even took Epsom salts when an attack had started a couple of times and it completely relieved it.

i don't think you need to do colonics afterwards - if you have taken the advised amount of Epsom salts then your body will flush everything out pretty darn well by itself - you will see what i mean if you try it.

people add al sorts of embellishments to the basic process
some add anti-parasitics on the basis that they think they have liver flukes etc
some add ornithine to help with sleep on the night of the flush

i just added fresh ginger juice as an antiemetic / anti-nausea option - as i was taking approx. 1.5x the amount of oil and grapefruit juice - which was a lot and i would sometimes have some mild nausea
the nausea wasn't bad - i just didn't want to bring it all up and waste a day of prep and have to do it again

the basic necessities are just the Epsom salts and the OO and GFJ mix - the rest is optional

i think the oil and the bile and maybe the acids from the grapefruit congeal together for form the soft pea shaped yellow green balls that are clear-ish blue / green inside - but cloudy and yellow/ brown on the outside. but i cannot prove this and the liver flush zealots will hate me for even suggesting it.
then again, without an autopsy they cannot prove they are in fact gall stones - so you take your pick

i do remember reading about a guy who had similar thoughts and he added strong dye to his OO and GFJ and sure enough the "stones" he produced had the colour of the dye in them

i don't think you can prove anything by taking just the epsom salts - other than a large dose of Epsom salts will give you rampant diarrhoea lol

its a moot point in my opinion though - and think the discussion on whatever the 100's of pea like things are is a side-track - as the flushes do work as i definitely did flush out an actual calcified stone that i collected from my poop strainer and tested - it fizzed when it was placed in vinegar ( i.e. likely calcium carbonate ).
This could not possibly have been anything i had eaten and the only plausible source was a gall stone.
this was proof enough for me.

the fact that i was able to avoid surgery, retain my gall bladder and go back to being able to eat normally - even eat Keto ( high fat ) without gall bladder attacks was amazing!!

I fasted all day saturday and did my first flush saturday evening into sunday morning. I had lots of tiny pellets sunday morning, which we've discussed are probably nothing more than the bile mixing w/ the acids.

I dont think I saw any stones.

But I did feel quite nauseous and dizzy sunday morning. Very "toxic". I had been in a very bad neuropathy flare since taking the licorice 10 days ago or so. But oddly Sunday night post-flush the burning calmed down significantly. And I did feel lighter and clearer and energized.

I will definitely be doing another one in 4 weeks.

Post Edited (dcd2103) : 2/7/2022 2:10:26 PM (GMT-7)

Yup! I'm pretty excited no enthesitis flare from this!

I dont think its an electrolyte thing and I'll tell you why.

This summer dont know if you remember me posting that I had pale colored stools with diarrhea and periods of extreme nausea for several hours each day for 3 days.

Turns out with Mary R's help, I figured out that the reason I was getting it was because I was at the spero clinic w/ a limited diet away from my kitchen. For extra calories/fat I had taken to putting copious amounts of olive oil in my soup and then just chugging it from the bottle.

I was basically forcing bile out of my liver...essentially doing a liver flush without knowing. Wasnt taking electrolytes. The nausea was extreme.