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Posted 12/6/2021 12:16 AM (GMT 0)
Hello everyone,

So I just had a cavitation surgery on my upper wisdom tooth site. Had it done by a biological dentist with great reviews and have some issues after.

So in terms of my overall health I feel so much better. However the one problem im having is a bad taste coming from the site. I've been back to my dentist and she says it's healthy and healing and doesn't look inflamed but have this bad taste. I was having this bad taste and coating around the teeth near wisdom tooth site before and am having it after even though I feel significantly better.

Any idea what to do next.
Posted 12/6/2021 12:30 AM (GMT 0)
I don’t have too many great suggestions other than to wonder if you’ve got some bad bacteria in your mouth? Or dry mouth?

I just started using this product yesterday, Biocidin Toothpaste. Expensive tho:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/b07ftts9c7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_r9w9snqs79njmjqhb9fv?_encoding=utf8&psc=1

Also curious why you chose to have the surgery. Was the site hurting or infected? I know that there are some tools they can supposedly use to see if you need a cavitation


Also, what are your other symptoms?
Posted 12/6/2021 12:59 AM (GMT 0)
Pbear2,

Hi and welcome! Glad to hear you feel better overall since having the procedure.

This is one of those scenarios that I can’t stand. Patient reports something wrong. Doctor checks and says everything looks fine and basically ignores what patient reports.

Having a bad taste and coating around the teeth near the site before and still after is a sign that something is still amiss.

You said the doctor said it wasn’t inflamed. Was it visibly inflamed before the procedure?

I had a front tooth partially brake off one time. I had bonding on that tooth and the bonding broke. There was green stuff in there, and I will never forget the taste. I had to leave it for 2-3 days until my dentist could get to it. I should have gone to another dentist to get it taken care of immediately, but I was young and didn’t know what to do. From time to time, I wonder if that incident has any affect on my body today.

Anyway, what to do?

Insist that something is still wrong. You should not be tasting anything now. How was the cavitation found in the first place - conebeam? Maybe the doctor should do another scan if they can’t find the problem.

Really sorry you’re dealing with this stressful situation.
Posted 12/6/2021 6:41 PM (GMT 0)

dcd2103 said...
I don’t have too many great suggestions other than to wonder if you’ve got some bad bacteria in your mouth? Or dry mouth?

I just started using this product yesterday, Biocidin Toothpaste. Expensive tho:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/b07ftts9c7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_r9w9snqs79njmjqhb9fv?_encoding=utf8&psc=1

Also curious why you chose to have the surgery. Was the site hurting or infected? I know that there are some tools they can supposedly use to see if you need a cavitation


Also, what are your other symptoms?

Hello,

Appreciate your reply.

I know it's nothing to do with dry mouth or anything like that because it's only coming through the wisdom tooth extraction site. For example when I brush my teeth in the mornings 10 minutes after there will be a coating around the surround teeth near the wisdom tooth extraction side but the other teeth will be fine and I literally feel it coming from that area.

In terms of why I had the surgery I was having swelling and discomfort even since my wisdom tooth extraction. Also from a combination of cone beam scan and EAV testing that suggested I had a cavitation. The dentist knew exactly as soon as she opened it up that there was a cavitation and could see the bone didn't heal underneath.

I have the biocidin toothpaste to but like I said its just coming from that area the rest of my teeth and mouth are clean.

My other symptoms were general malaise, minor sinus problems, GI problems, anxiety and swollen lymph which have all dissapeared within a week. However this weird bad taste and coating around my teeth still persist im generally so confused because I know the cavitation has changed my overall health so confused why its still here. It's getting me wondering does it need some more time to heal? Im confused
Posted 12/6/2021 6:45 PM (GMT 0)

WalkingbyFaith said...
Pbear2,

Hi and welcome! Glad to hear you feel better overall since having the procedure.

This is one of those scenarios that I can’t stand. Patient reports something wrong. Doctor checks and says everything looks fine and basically ignores what patient reports.

Having a bad taste and coating around the teeth near the site before and still after is a sign that something is still amiss.

You said the doctor said it wasn’t inflamed. Was it visibly inflamed before the procedure?

I had a front tooth partially brake off one time. I had bonding on that tooth and the bonding broke. There was green stuff in there, and I will never forget the taste. I had to leave it for 2-3 days until my dentist could get to it. I should have gone to another dentist to get it taken care of immediately, but I was young and didn’t know what to do. From time to time, I wonder if that incident has any affect on my body today.

Anyway, what to do?

Insist that something is still wrong. You should not be tasting anything now. How was the cavitation found in the first place - conebeam? Maybe the doctor should do another scan if they can’t find the problem.

Really sorry you’re dealing with this stressful situation.

Hello thanks for your reply,

So yes it was physically inflamed before procedure. Not crazy inflamed but there was signs of inflammation and when the dentist opened up could see the infection and the bone not healing.

This why I sent this post because I wanted to see if anyone had the same and im wondering is it a situation where I need time for it to dissapear? Or is it a sign that there's something wrong. It's all so confusing because I know the surgery has helped in terms of general health but it's literally just this one problem that's driving me crazy
Posted 3/2/2022 3:40 AM (GMT 0)
Hi!

I’m going through almost the same thing. It’s not really a bad smell but more metallic bitter almost. And I keep getting a film on my teeth by the cavitation surgery sites.

What ended up happening with yours?
Posted 3/2/2022 4:22 AM (GMT 0)

ChrisCapps said...
Hi!

I’m going through almost the same thing. It’s not really a bad smell but more metallic bitter almost. And I keep getting a film on my teeth by the cavitation surgery sites.

What ended up happening with yours?

Hi Chris, welcome to the forum.

Do you also have Lyme disease?
Posted 3/2/2022 12:11 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, Lyme and co-infections
Posted 3/3/2022 9:44 PM (GMT 0)
Although I can’t really advise on cavitations, but for dental issues herbals can be useful.
Anytime I have a tooth sensitivity or pain or concern, I take a Lemon Ginger tea bag (yogi brand) remove the string and place it between teeth and gum for an hour.
I don’t swallow as it could be killed off bacteria in it etc.
This seems to resolve issues for me rather quickly.

I do this often anyway as dental issues and Lyme can be intertwined.
Posted 3/4/2022 12:21 PM (GMT 0)
ref the herbal options

when i became ill with lyme my gums became very inflamed with deep pockets and my dentist was concerned that i may loose my teeth

i went through an intensive gum rescue treatment over around 12 months with a dental hygienist - scraping, ultrasonic etc - things improved but my gums were still somewhat inflamed
still inflamed after 9months of antibiotics also

i have been swilling my gums with my lyme and co-infection tinctures for around 10 seconds before swallowing them for over a year now and my gums have returned to almost perfect - just one or two small pockets left

i think the herbs - both the antimicrobial ones and the anti-inflammatory ones can help
Posted 3/5/2022 7:21 PM (GMT 0)
I have heard good things about Dr Christophers tooth and gum paste-I have not used.

You can find a short youtube on him speaking about how it works
Posted 3/5/2022 8:45 PM (GMT 0)
Garzie: “ when i became ill with lyme my gums became very inflamed with deep pockets and my dentist was concerned that i may loose my teeth

i went through an intensive gum rescue treatment over around 12 months with a dental hygienist - scraping, ultrasonic etc - things improved but my gums were still somewhat inflamed
still inflamed after 9months of antibiotics also “

I had periodontal disease - inflamed and bleeding gums.
At one point I saw the dental Hygenist every few months for cleaning.
This started in my 30’s even though I had issues in my late teens/20’s.
At one point I had surgery on all 4 quads - to get rid of the pockets.
… and it still continued.

Then - it just stopped!
I wonder now if it was the antibiotic treatment for Lyme and CO’s that resolved it.

Could it have been caused by Lyme and CO’s ?
Posted 3/5/2022 10:54 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...


Then - it just stopped!
I wonder now if it was the antibiotic treatment for Lyme and CO’s that resolved it.

Could it have been caused by Lyme and CO’s ?

yep - i have read many accounts of people having issues with gum disease - only after getting lyme.

my own teeth and gums were perfect before
never even had a filling
still no fillings after lyme - but gums became very swollen sore and bleeding
very happy to have it back under control as my dentist lead me to believe it was a one way street

i think the multi abx combos and biofilms busters etc may well have had a hand in it recovering in your case , but i also think the mouth reflects our general health - there are always some bacteria ( some of them spirochetes ) in biofilms between our teeth and our gums - so maybe the degree of inflammation is a measure of how well our bodies are dealing with them.

our ancestors seemed to know this - its actually the source of the saying - "never look a gift hose in the mouth" - ie its impolite to inspect the health of a gifted horse - where the health of teh gums are a sign of the horses overall health ...
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