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Posted 3/10/2022 10:25 PM (GMT 0)
Does anyone’s headache get worse when taking hot Detox bath?
Posted 3/10/2022 11:55 PM (GMT 0)
I don’t have a very hot bath.

My baths are comfortable.
I add Epsom salts and I feel better afterwards.

Why are you taking a hot bath ?
Maybe try a warm one next time.

“ Warning: Bath water that is too hot may have the opposite effect and cause die off by killing spirochetes. If you're sulfur sensitive, consider talking with your doctor before using epsom salt.“

https://www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html
Posted 3/11/2022 12:56 AM (GMT 0)
Girlie ...thanks for advice. I really don’t know why I have been taking really hot Detox baths (epson salt). Guess I assumed really hot bath is good like a Sauna. I drink about 50 oz of water while taking bath. Only way I could tolerate it fir an hour.

You brought up an interesting point about Spiroochetes...don’t we want the spirochete to die? I did hear recently heat would cause them to multiply which I know none of us want.

Thx again
Posted 3/11/2022 3:59 AM (GMT 0)
Well I’m using the Epsom salt baths to help minimize my herxing when I’m treating with the abx. I’m not wanting to kill anymore .
Posted 3/11/2022 9:57 AM (GMT 0)
Yah it happens to me. Not always headache, sometimes just severe flushing and feeling like crap.

If you are on abx, the heat will increase their penetration to tissues and sensitize lyme to being killed. I think for me it is either a mast cell thing or a herx thing - which may be the same thing.

I think frequent epson salt baths or, better still, are frequent infared saunas. You are gonna increase microbial killing while also delivering numerous benefits to your body that can protect tissues and promote detox and healing.
Posted 3/11/2022 11:42 AM (GMT 0)
i have been experimenting with hot epsom salt baths as a kind of DIY hyperthermia treatment - found that i could workup to near 41 deg C internal body temperature over time

there are some published papers with frequent / short ( 30mins to 1hrs ) hyperthermia treatments in this range helping for lyme

is known to help breakdown biofilm - increases activity of some interferons - and increases tissue perfusion - so when used alongside antimicrobials and biofilm agents it definitely increases herx like effects - so you need to modulate accordingly to suit your current state of health / tolerance

initially even mildly hot baths for short periods would cause symptom flares - now is can function pretty well afterwards despite 46.5 deg C bath temperature

we had a discussion about it here
https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=4271960
Posted 3/11/2022 7:56 PM (GMT 0)
I learned at Biologix that an infrared sauna can help with red blood cells and lower blood pressure. I think a hot bath can also lower blood pressure, as a sauna can.

As mentioned above, however, some people get a herx-like reaction to the heat.
Posted 3/11/2022 10:21 PM (GMT 0)
If you are doing consistent sauna and/or hot epsom bath sessions make sure you are replenishing electrolytes.
Posted 3/11/2022 10:39 PM (GMT 0)

BlondieStrong said...
Girlie ...thanks for advice. I really don’t know why I have been taking really hot Detox baths (epson salt). Guess I assumed really hot bath is good like a Sauna. I drink about 50 oz of water while taking bath. Only way I could tolerate it fir an hour.

You brought up an interesting point about Spiroochetes...don’t we want the spirochete to die? I did hear recently heat would cause them to multiply which I know none of us want.

Thx again

For me - the Epsom salt bath is to tame a herx or just to feel better when I’m hurting.
So mine are a comfortable temperature.
Today I followed my exercising with the bath.

If your intention is to kill the spirochetes - then I guess a hot bath might be useful.
Posted 3/12/2022 7:15 PM (GMT 0)
I develop a headache, brain fog, flushing, and sometimes other symptoms as a result of hot baths, sauna, or anything that makes me feel very hot. This happens because I have mast cell activation syndrome, and heat is one of my triggers. Others have good theories as well - herxing, electrolyte depletion, dehydration, etc. - just wanted to add this one to the mix.
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