Candida diet, say no to fermented foods and yeast ingredients

https://www.amymyersmd.com/article/avoid-fermented-foods-candida/


There is talk about candida here occasionally, that is usually digestive candida, Which I’ve had many times. There is a standard conventional medicine blood test for it as well that detects antibodies, and it’s pretty accurate.

It’s pretty easy to get if you have immune system problems, auto immune, leaky gut, or from being on antibiotics. It’s pretty easy for Gerd to accompany this as well.

Of course the general population as of the last 10 years probably thinks eating fermented foods is just fantastic for digestive system, the correct answer is NO....it isn’t if you have any of the above issues.

This is also why I do not agree with using the SB probiotic yeast, it’s just common sense not to use it as it’s fueling the possible fire or the fire you currently have especially if you are taking antibiotics.

If you ate going to take a probiotic with meals, preferably the opposite time that you take antibiotics or any bacterial killing herbs supplements etc. take a bacterial probiotic - And don’t go overboard with that either.

I recently had digestive candida and or SIBO try its best to come back, So I have really been limiting my diet starchy carbs sugars anything with yeast and fermented foods.

I just googled if dill pickles are OK , I’m not really sure if they’re ferment or not but they have vinegar in them,....the answer is no, dill pickles are not OK while you have candida which is kind of a bummer. That’s what brought me to this website up above and I just thought I’d post it as a lyme public service announcement ....have a good night!

Any bread, even gluten-free bread is made with yeast. Any bread also breaks down into sugar which feeds yeast.

Then you have the whole grain bread crowd towting how awesome their bread is. That still has yeast in it! And eventually sugar.

I used to eat sourdough bread with better success than regular bread, as it has way less gluten, the yeast is different I’m really not so sure about how different though.

There is always the tortilla wrap option. That also has yeast, but obviously way less volume be bread. And you can get those in many different types nowadays. Gluten-free, spinach wraps, even completely grain free.

Post Edited (astroman) : 7/16/2022 8:28:48 PM (GMT-7)

Its hard to cut out bread,
I know in my mind though it isnt beneficial.
Great idea about the tortilla I think, gonna give it a try. I buy more hard bread too, was thinking maybe it has less yeast...🙂

It all depends on your degree to susceptibility of both of those. Some people even those who are not on antibiotics are still susceptible to both of those.

When or if someone gets an acute overgrowth abundance of either one of these while treating Lyme and your immune system is low, or your on antibiotics, then it’s really best to go on a combination of the candida diet and use natural supplements to control it. That’s what I’m doing right now. There are many different herbs, what I call hot herbs that go after candida.

SIBO is more of a balancing act Of avoiding fodmap foods and eating the right type of fiber to get things moving in addition to digestive enzymes and sometimes HCL.

In the past while on antibiotics I’ve also had to use RX nystatin and Diflucan. DIf is the stronger one for most people. These are both strong medication’s and not to be taken an extended period of time.

I’ve done this many times now. Eating food that feeds both of these just adds fuel to the fire and prolongs the overgrowth even if you’re taking supplements to help.

Once you get it under control then it’s a different story depending on your specific body. I kind of know my yield point yet I tend to go over it sometimes and then, well, this is what happens ....back to square one. What times I do go over my “yield “point, it’s usually because of social pressures during social eating, -summer barbecues and winter holiday Meals, gatherings etc.

It is a minefield that sooner or later you’ll learn, And you’ll be glad you learned it.

The real importance of all this, the big picture, Is to keep the damage to the microvilli in the intestinal lining at a minimal amount. It’s not something that just grows back easily.

There seems to be a pretty strong connection nowadays between increased intestinal permeability, which is damage to the microvilli, And gut flora overgrowth, in addition to certain foods that individuals do not tolerate very well.

The specific foods that are inflammatory to my blood , proven by the leap MRT test, create symptoms that become way more obvious when my gut is inflamed from Candida or SIBO (probably with increased gut permeability also ). This observation kind of proves to me anyway that Leaky gut exists.

Example: Corn sugars, dextrose , additives etc. I can normally deal with in minimal amounts. However,During times of candida and or SIBO these corn product additives Will create gut symptoms. What other symptoms one might ask,? Everything you’ve heard of, yes it becomes that obvious. Skin, insomnia, mental fatigue. Maybe even more bodyaches than usual.

Post Edited (astroman) : 7/17/2022 3:37:36 PM (GMT-7)

astroman said...

This is also why I do not agree with using the SB probiotic yeast, it’s just common sense not to use it as it’s fueling the possible fire or the fire you currently have especially if you are taking antibiotics.

Do you mean Saccharomyces boulardii? It outcompetes candida so not sure why you think it's bad?

Saccharomyces boulardii is non-pathogenic and non-colonizing...

Vimzor said...
[Do you mean Saccharomyces boulardii? It outcompetes candida so not sure why you think it's bad?

According to this test, no it doesn't:

https://academic.oup.com/mmy/article/49/4/395/962256

This is one of those topics with published both pro and con; so results would very per individual.

Post Edited (astroman) : 7/19/2022 12:56:06 PM (GMT-7)

astroman said...

According to this test, no it doesn't:

https://academic.oup.com/mmy/article/49/4/395/962256
This is one of those topics with published both pro and con; so results would very per individual.

Then I'm happy I'm one of the lucky ones, it helps to control candida flare ups for me.

To quantify this discussion more, and so people can decide for themselves if it's risky or not, this is from the study you linked:

Somebody said...
Oral administration of S. boulardii in the form of capsules containing the yeast in a lyophilized form has traditionally been considered safe. However, several reports of S. cerevisiae fungemia associated with its probiotic use have been published [6–10]. Lherm et al. [6] reported seven cases of systemic fungal infection in a series of 1395 intensive care unit (ICU) patients treated with S. boulardii. The authors concluded that the incidence of fungemia might be approximately five per 1000.

Most patients with S. boulardii fungemia were immunosuppressed due to corticosteroids or immunosuppressive agents, hematopoietic stem cell transplantation, malignant haematological diseases, neutropenia, diabetes, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection and/or neonate state [7,8]. However, there are reports of S. boulardii fungemia in critically ill patients with no obvious immunosuppression [9,10].

The source of the fungemia is thought to be the digestive tract, as has been documented in experimental studies for C. albicans [20]. Enteral translocation of ingested S. boulardii appears to be the main portal of entry into the bloodstream, especially in patients receiving high doses of the yeast along with antibiotics anaerobic activity [21]. This route was confirmed by light and scanning electron microscopy examination of specimens prepared from the intestine of BALB/c mice given the yeast by intubation at a dosage of 1.5 g/kg every 6 h for up to 48 h [13]. In addition, translocation of S. boulardii to mesenteric lymph nodes, and rarely to the liver and spleen has been observed in immunosuppressed mice treated with excessively high yeast dose (10 mg) [14].

It is tempting to believe that supplements will have a beneficial effect. This is not necessarily so, I took homeopathic tinctures formulated to detoxify the liver. They were only effective in driving up my liver enzymes, once I stopped taking them enzymes returned to normal.

Thanks tr! I could use the extra help for my nails too-completely wrecked.