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Posted 9/4/2022 9:48 AM (GMT 0)
Rifampicin lowers the effect of malarone. How do you treat Babesia while using Rifampicin against Bartonella?
Posted 9/4/2022 10:39 AM (GMT 0)

MariaS74 said...
Rifampicin lowers the effect of malarone. How do you treat Babesia while using Rifampicin against Bartonella?


My llmd treats Babesia first for several months , then goes on to Bartonella.
While on Bart treatment he also has you take some other antimalarials - he had me take dapsone and Clindamycin when I was killing Bartonella.
He also had me take the herbals Cryptolepis and Artemisinin.
I believe that Clindamycin is an anti malarial so it targets Babesia.
Dapsone as well
Posted 9/4/2022 11:34 AM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...

MariaS74 said...
Rifampicin lowers the effect of malarone. How do you treat Babesia while using Rifampicin against Bartonella?


My llmd treats Babesia first for several months , then goes on to Bartonella.
While on Bart treatment he also has you take some other antimalarials - he had me take dapsone and Clindamycin when I was killing Bartonella.
He also had me take the herbals Cryptolepis and Artemisinin.

Thank you Girlie for your answer! Is clindamycin and dapsone for treating babesia or were they for treating both babesia and bartonella?
Posted 9/4/2022 12:33 PM (GMT 0)
“ Thank you Girlie for your answer! Is clindamycin and dapsone for treating babesia or were they for treating both babesia and bartonella?“

The Clindamycin and dapsone would keep Babesia down while I took Rifabutin for Bartonella. There were other abx with that - Ceftin and mino
Posted 9/4/2022 1:07 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
“ Thank you Girlie for your answer! Is clindamycin and dapsone for treating babesia or were they for treating both babesia and bartonella?“

The Clindamycin and dapsone would keep Babesia down while I took Rifabutin for Bartonella. There were other abx with that - Ceftin and mino

Did you take clindamycin, dapsone, ceftin and mino + Rifampicin all at once? Isn't dapsone also for bartonella?
Posted 9/4/2022 8:29 PM (GMT 0)
“ Did you take clindamycin, dapsone, ceftin and mino + Rifampicin all at once? Isn't dapsone also for bartonella?“

The dapsone was taken on week one of a 4 week protocol.with Rifabutin, Ceftin and mino.
Clindamycin was taken on week two. I’ll have to check what was taken with that.
Week 3 or 4 (my choice) I took Alinia.
Posted 9/4/2022 8:46 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
“ Did you take clindamycin, dapsone, ceftin and mino + Rifampicin all at once? Isn't dapsone also for bartonella?“

The dapsone was taken on week one of a 4 week protocol.with Rifabutin, Ceftin and mino.
Clindamycin was taken on week two. I’ll have to check what was taken with that.
Week 3 or 4 (my choice) I took Alinia.

I am sorry for all my questions which meds were for bartonella? Do all of them except for alinia treat bartonella?
Posted 9/4/2022 10:51 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...

MariaS74 said...
Rifampicin lowers the effect of malarone. How do you treat Babesia while using Rifampicin against Bartonella?


My llmd treats Babesia first for several months , then goes on to Bartonella.
While on Bart treatment he also has you take some other antimalarials - he had me take dapsone and Clindamycin when I was killing Bartonella.
He also had me take the herbals Cryptolepis and Artemisinin.
I believe that Clindamycin is an anti malarial so it targets Babesia.
Dapsone as well


I reacted terribly to clindamycin. My llmd doesn't use it in his practice as a choice of babesia treatment because it says the side effects. It made me anxious, depressed and felt I was going crazy. I had negative babs microti test bt wasn't tested for babs duncani. Since I reacted so strongly to the clindamycin do you think it's worth getting tested for the babs duncani this time with Igenex because I heard you can have either microti or duncani ?
Posted 9/4/2022 10:51 PM (GMT 0)
Rifampin and Rifabutin are the meds specifically for Bartonella.
The others- mino, Ceftin, treat Lyme and may also treat bart somewhat.
Dapsone - Bartonella (might work on Babesia somewhat?)
Posted 9/4/2022 10:54 PM (GMT 0)
“ Since I reacted so strongly to the clindamycin do you think it's worth getting tested for the babs duncani this time with Igenex because I heard you can have either microti or duncani ?“
I don’t think the tests are that great for Babesia.
My llmd treats all patients for Babesia - because you need to treat it if you have it
Posted 9/4/2022 10:56 PM (GMT 0)
If I haven’t answered your questions - let me know,

The quote function is screwed up and I’m getting lost in these texts - lol
Posted 9/5/2022 12:20 AM (GMT 0)
I also had a bad reaction to clindamycin (mainly esophagitis).

Clindamycin is an option if you can tolerate it, but it's not often recommended due to side effects.
Posted 9/5/2022 1:33 AM (GMT 0)
Interesting, Quin - as I know/have known several/many people (with Lyme) - some personally and some through the forum - that take Clindamycin with no issues.
Posted 9/7/2022 4:26 PM (GMT 0)
There is someone on this forum who uses Mepron with Rifampin. I think he takes a higher dose of Mepron because Rifampin lowers the concentration of Mepron? You'll have to double check me on that.

I take Rifampin, Mino, Septra DS and Babs/Bart herbs together (pulsed except for Rifampin). This could treat all three infections at once. I do think I'm going to try to add something more for Babs like Mepron or Alinia. Maybe some rounds of Coartem in between, as it has more interactions.
Posted 9/7/2022 5:06 PM (GMT 0)

JMF84 said...
There is someone on this forum who uses Mepron with Rifampin. I think he takes a higher dose of Mepron because Rifampin lowers the concentration of Mepron? You'll have to double check me on that.

I take Rifampin, Mino, Septra DS and Babs/Bart herbs together (pulsed except for Rifampin). This could treat all three infections at once. I do think I'm going to try to add something more for Babs like Mepron or Alinia. Maybe some rounds of Coartem in between, as it has more interactions.

Thank you for sharing! Is septra similar to bactrim?
Posted 9/7/2022 6:49 PM (GMT 0)
It's the same I think. Septra DS is the double strength though.

I'm going to have to check interactions to see if I can take Alinia with the other abx.
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