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Posted 9/12/2022 3:46 PM (GMT 0)
I did the carnivore diet for 6 weeks and my cholesterol nearly doubled. It was hovering around 140 - 180 over the past 10 years and it just came back at 313 so I had to stop the diet.

Heard some good things about the carnivore diet and in a short amount my waist dropped 1.5". I wasn't doing it for weight loss as I'm already lean enough but bloating was one of my primary concerns that it helped with. No other improvements.

Something worth noting is that one of the parasites I have is a direct cause of leaky gut (Blastocystis hominis). I'm wondering if the high amounts of fat on this diet could be leaking directly into the blood stream which could potentially be causing my cholesterol to rise so quickly in such a short amount of time.

Anyone know if this could be lyme related or have any other ideas?
Posted 9/12/2022 3:55 PM (GMT 0)
Cholesterol always goes up initially on the carnivore diet.

The war on cholesterol is misguided. Total cholesterol has been dropped from the 5 criteria for metabolic syndrome because it's a faulty marker. Dietary cholesterol is not bad for you. Within cholesterol it is a specific type called VLDLs which are bad and trigger inflammation in the arteries. These go up w/ the consumption of seed oils and sugar, not fat.

I've seen this story on r/carnivore and r/keto 100x. Dude goes on carnivore, his HDL goes up, his A1C goes down, he drops a ton of weight and feels great. By all indications he's improved his health dramaticaly, but some dr relying on 70yo science prescribes a statin and tells him to quit. Amazing
Posted 9/12/2022 4:31 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you for the response!

I agree with everything you said. Although I still am concerned with the rate of increase in just a short amount of time and if the trend continues into the 400s, 500s. My LDL also went over 200.

All this seemed so fast...
Posted 9/12/2022 5:38 PM (GMT 0)
what Dcd is saying is that
1, total cholesterol is not a good test or marker of health
2, when swapping to a higher fat intake from traditional western diet - its normally a temporary effect and not a cause for concern
3, the level of the harmful subtype of cholesterol may be driven more by the type of fats and other things in the diet - rather than the total fat or total cholesterol

the whole story of how fat and cholesterol became vilified is a farce - where the science was utterly distorted by one guy trying to make himself famous - then others saw how they could gain from it and jumped on board

so for 4 decades we had cereal packets claiming they were "heart healthy", because they were low fat - but at the same time neglecting to mention they were 30% refined sugar by weight. this was a gross misrepresentation of the truth, but one that was accepted as truth and entered into the common culture due to repetition and weight of advertising. Unsurprisingly cardiovascular disease continued to escalate for those 4 decades as a result.
Posted 9/12/2022 7:52 PM (GMT 0)
I ate a lot more meat and way less veggies in the spring, the result :

my half decent Clorestrall got worse. So that’s three of us here that confirmed this. (Edit: that was not aware that this may be temporary)


And with all that meat I was getting somewhat constipated too.I went back to eating a mixed but healthy diet.

Good thing about eating all that meat, I had zero sugar in me.

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Sugar rant-

The only sugar I do get is from the healthier gluten-free granola bars, which I was not eating at the above time.

I wish they would just stop adding sugar altogether. If they tasted like tree bark ,I’d still eat it for a snack as long as it fills my stomach.

And the ones that they add figs too, that’s a huge no-no, absolutely ridiculous! Unbelievable how much sugar is in a fig. I don’t care if it’s natural not we’re not supposed to eat sugar cubes. Figs just give gut bugs something to digest. And what was the result of me eating nutritional bars with figs,?..... farting all day the next day lol!!! Do not feed gut bugs.!

Post Edited (astroman) : 9/12/2022 2:52:17 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 9/12/2022 8:19 PM (GMT 0)
Something also interesting to point out is that my fasting glucose was 93....

Pre-diet it was 89. So after 6 weeks of ZERO carbs my fasting glucose went higher?? Makes ZERO sense.

I listened to a podcast with Dr. Jay Davidson (Microbe Formulas) and he said parasites will cause elevated fasting glucose. And once parasites are resolved, the numbers get better. Food for thought.
Posted 9/12/2022 9:26 PM (GMT 0)
high cortisol from stress and / or infections messing up our hormonal responses can and do mess with blood sugar - cortisol triggers rises in blood sugar as part of the fight or flight response - so that could be connected

many people with chronic diseases are chronically stressed - either because chronic disease is stressful and alarming on its own - or because our brains are triggered to be on high alert by all the inflammation in the limbic system - or both
Posted 9/12/2022 9:56 PM (GMT 0)
Garzie-exactly.

I think I mentioned the stress cortisol high glucose connection myself here several times. I’ve proven it with testing in my case as well.

This is also exactly how holy basil (which is a stress reliever) also lowers blood glucose.
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