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Posted 12/4/2022 2:11 PM (GMT 0)
Guys,
This seriously feels like COVID. I don’t understand why I tested negative. I am having runaway cytokine inflammation in my respiratory tract, which is what makes COVID dangerous and deadly and causes damage to lungs and other organs. This is also the 7th day. I only felt better the 3rd day and got progressively worse after that day.

The ear pain started Friday afternoon, I think along with increased inflammation in my sinuses. I could feel inflammation in chest yesterday and last night. Felt scared last night.

Water started pouring out of my right ear during the night from the pressure of inflammation. Again, I slept little - 2 hours straight then intermittently between coughing for a few more hours.

I remembered Hydrogen and drank some hydrogen water. I inhaled it and could feel it relieve some inflammation, but it’s not enough. I need to nevulize it, and I don’t have the equipment or supplies. I have a link to an older post where Deejavu shared a Mercola article that had instructions and supplies resources.

I wanted to get the atuff today, but I don’t know if I can just walk in a pharmacy and ask for a nebulizer and the supplies. Will they let you buy it without a prescription?
Posted 12/4/2022 2:36 PM (GMT 0)
You can buy a nebulizer without a prescription.

I found two on the CVS website, but they show as not being sold in stores. The same goes for Walmart.

On the Walgreens website, they say to contact your local store to see about availability.
https://www.walgreens.com/topic/pharmacy/nebulizer-services.jsp

They're available on Amazon.com, thought that would take a few days. You could pay for overnight shipping, but I'm not sure about the shipping charge.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=nebulizer

Just Nebulizers
https://justnebulizers.com

You can also search Google for "Medical Supplies Near Me" and see what you find.

Did you happen to look at the FLCCC protocols I linked in a previous comment? They also mention Influenza and RSV. If you did see the protocols, then no worries.

I'm sorry you're dealing with this. I hope you feel better soon.
Posted 12/4/2022 2:54 PM (GMT 0)
Thnx, Dude. I have been following the FLCCC protocol with as much as I have available. I am using Alinia since I have no Iver.

I will have to call around at the local pharmacies to see if I can pick up a machine and supplies today without a Rx. I am setting up orders now, but it will be several days to get the machine even with $60 expedited shipping.

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 12/4/2022 6:57:18 AM (GMT-8)

Posted 12/4/2022 3:22 PM (GMT 0)
Understood. Thanks for the reply.

If you don't have a local doctor who will write you a prescription for Ivermectin, there's a pharmacy in Tennessee that will sell it without a prescription. They compound it themselves in various doses.

The pharmacy’s website: https://medicine-counter01.business.site
The Ivermectin order form: https://hipaa.jotform.com/221387018183152

It's not as cheap as, say, AllDayChemist, but the last I checked, AllDayChemist was backlogged 20-30 working days.

Given his occupation, you could also e-mail Georgia Hunter for advice.
Posted 12/4/2022 4:13 PM (GMT 0)
Just said a prayer for you WalkingbyFaith.

Also, is there any way you can get tested for rsv? It's on the rise apparently:

https://www.yahoo.com/now/rsv-cases-surge-older-adults-023822371.html
Posted 12/4/2022 4:14 PM (GMT 0)
Well, Dude, I persevered on the internet a couple hours and managed to order a nebulizer, saline, and peroxide that are all supposed to arrive today. Hoping it all gets here. I hit a snag when ordering the saline. Site said if I ordered $ more of “qualifying items” I could get same day delivery, so I ordered something I didn’t need to get it only to have the page change and say it would be delivered Tuesday. I contacted Amazon and they said they put a note to the shipping department and they would try to get it here today. I hope they do.
Posted 12/4/2022 4:21 PM (GMT 0)

RainyCloud said...
Just said a prayer for you WalkingbyFaith.

Also, is there any way you can get tested for rsv? It's on the rise apparently:

https://www.yahoo.com/now/rsv-cases-surge-older-adults-023822371.html

Thank you very much for the prayers. I need them!!

That’s an interesting article, but the symptoms they describe don’t sound severe. I had ENT problems from infancy throughout childhood and sinus infections in adulthood and strep throat once. This is DIFFERENT. It’s not even like what I had a year ago, which was much milder compared to this.

I took a Tylenol before bed, which helped, but I feel like I have a fever again. The ear pain has been awful and apparently busted my right eardrum. It’s still draining fluid. The fever and inflammation seem like what COVID is like. Stopping the cytokine storm is what is needed.
Posted 12/4/2022 4:25 PM (GMT 0)
Wow, same-day delivery. That's kind of amazing. Well done!

That would be somewhat of an arduous process, even when feeling "normal." But, going through all that while being sick, worried, and running on virtually no sleep is probably especially exhausting.
Posted 12/7/2022 8:29 AM (GMT 0)
Hey, WalkingbyFaith, how are you doing?
Posted 12/7/2022 4:38 PM (GMT 0)
Dude,
Thank you for checking on me.

I went to the ENT Monday. Chest and lungs sounded fine. Could see stuff draining from my sinuses and suctioned my ears out. She told me not to take the Z-Pak, but Rx Augmentin instead and an ear drop. Said I have a sinus infection and the stuff I’d been coughing up was coming from my sinuses not my chest.

Started the Augmentin right away. I think it’s helping some but the progress is slow. The left sinus cavity still feels impacted, and I can feel it in my upper teeth now. The pain is better now. Think I still have low grade fever but haven’t used the thermometer. Was finally able to use a nasal wash yesterday, but it didn’t do a whole lot. Fnally got a little bit of sleep last night, but not enough.

If the left sinus could get a breakthrough, I’d get well quick. It’s even crossed my mind to go to the physical therapy place and see if I can get someone to do a pressure point thing to release that sinus cavity so it can drain.

I have had sinus infections since 10th grade and I am over 50, so I have had a lot of them. Thankfully I don’t them often anymore like I did in my teens and 20’s. This one has to be among the top 3-4 worst sinus infections I’ve ever had. I have never had fever so long. I have had some degree of fever during parts of the day for a week now.
Posted 12/7/2022 4:54 PM (GMT 0)
One more thing. She Rx an eardrop for the oozing ear, too. The first pharmacy didn’t have it in stock, so I ended up getting it somewhere else late yesterday. Look at the paper and saw the scary warnings and realized it’s a sulfa drug - Sulfacetamide.

My mother and grandmother both had horrible reactions to sulfa drugs - pretty sure it was Bactrim. My mom’s reaction didn’t start until after the last dose. I seriously thought she was going to have SJS. I also learned from that nightmare that there’s really no treatment for drug reactions. You can’t stop it with Benadryl, though they’ll give you drugs to try to do something for it. Drug reactions kind of have a life of their own and run their course. Scary, scary.

So, today I have to deal with the stress of figuring this out.
Posted 12/7/2022 5:39 PM (GMT 0)
Good move going to an Ear, Nose, and Throat specialist. I'm really glad to hear that your lungs and chest sound fine. Hopefully, that gave you some relief and peace of mind. However, I also understand you're still dealing with the sickness.

Even if you're unable to sleep, just lying down and resting can still be helpful. You're probably doing so, but it was worth mentioning. I tend to push myself too much, even when sick. Spending too much time online researching things and/or too much time in my head worrying about things is another affliction of mine.

I've never heard anything about Sulfa drugs, so I'm glad you mentioned it. I just did a quick Google search and will have to keep that class of drugs (Sulfonamides) in the back of my head. It's frustrating that we have to keep abreast of so many healthcare-related topics, to either help ourselves...or keep us from being harmed.

How about hydrogen peroxide for your ear? Do you think that might help?

Wishing you a speedy recovery!
Posted 12/8/2022 12:04 AM (GMT 0)
“ Drug reactions kind of have a life of their own and run their course. Scary, scary.“

Yes they do.
I was also scared to take the sulfa drug bactrim.
I think I lasted a month on it.
I had a developed a low key rash and I pulled the plug.
Called the clinic and they substituted another abx to replace it.

But, if you read the warnings/side effects for most abx - you will see a long list for most, if not all abx.

Some are worse than others’

I refused to take bactrim or any of the fluoroquinolones.
Posted 12/8/2022 12:44 AM (GMT 0)
The doctors office called back and said there was no other appropriate option since I am allergic to Cipro and she didn’t think I would have a reaction to the drops.

Sooo . . . I used them at 3 pm and will do again tonight and pay attention to any odd changes. I do think there’s less chance of a bad reaction to the drops as opposed to oral. On the other hand, it was the eye drop form of Ciprofloxacin that I had a reaction to years ago.
Posted 12/8/2022 1:14 AM (GMT 0)

WalkingbyFaith said...
I do think there’s less chance of a bad reaction to the drops as opposed to oral. On the other hand, it was the eye drop form of Ciprofloxacin that I had a reaction to years ago.

When I had my eyes dilated, they put this solution in my eyes that I immediately tasted. So, eye drops can end up going through the tear duct and being swallowed. So, you probably have less to worry about with your ear.

Side Note: It's irritating when doctors say things like "I think you'll be fine" -- often based on nothing. Sure, easy for you to say, as you're not the test subject! I guess they have to say that, but, if I were a doctor, I wouldn't be so cavalier.
Posted 12/8/2022 2:08 AM (GMT 0)
I don't want to dissuade you if you feel like the ear antibiotics are the best route, but people do treat some nasty ear infections with garlic oil, oregano oil, mullein, and other essential oils. They are not exempt from causing side effects or reactions, and oregano especially can be very strong and cause burns if not diluted enough with a carrier oil (coconut, olive). Just suggesting other options if you are uncomfortable with the pharmaceutical options. (I am allergic to the sulfa family of drugs as well!)
Posted 12/19/2022 2:21 PM (GMT 0)
Still sick and now sicker. Finished Augmentin last Thursday morning and finished the ear drops Friday. While the abx did seem to slowly help, I never got well. I still had thick and sticky, clear congestion in my sinuses and still felt sick.

Well, at 5 am, I coughed up brownish yellow mucus again that was hanging down the back of my nose. I already had a followup appointment scheduled with the ENT today, so I am hoping she will help me.

This is worrisome. I don’t think I have ever had an abx failure with a sinus infection like this before.
Posted 12/19/2022 4:58 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, WBF. I'm so sorry you're still dealing with this!

A good friend's child has been going through something similar - a bad virus that turned into a sinus/ear infection. The doctor told them that he's been seeing a lot of this lately, and that some of the sinus infections seem to be antibiotic-resistant. The child was prescribed amoxicillin, but they had to go to multiple pharmacies to amass enough for a full one-week course because of the amoxicillin shortage (because of the huge numbers of sick kids right now), and at two pharmacies they got the last of the amoxicillin, so the next kid was just out of luck. The amoxicillin helped, but not all the way. Not sure what the doctor will prescribe next....

I guess this isn't a helpful message, really. Just saying you're not alone!

Gnarly stuff going around!
Posted 12/19/2022 9:15 PM (GMT 0)
WBF, I sure don't want to downplay what you are going through, but those were my symptoms when I was just about to have a full-blown sinus infection. It's miserable for sure! I went to my ENT and he had me using Xyzal antihistamine (of course, I used the generic instead), the nasal spray (2 squirts, each nostril, 2 times a day) for 2 weeks before stepping me down off both. Getting off of those things without having the exact same situation returning took a bit, but it was worth it! I've been able to avoid having a sinus infection with RSV by following this plan back during Thanksgiving of this year.

Whatever this is for you, I sure hope it resolves soon! I know I was miserable for about a week, although hubby only had it for 5 days.
Posted 12/20/2022 2:59 PM (GMT 0)
Just a quick update. The doctor didn’t see anything in my nose she could culture, so we discussed other treatment options. She mentioned steroids again but knew I didn’t want to do that and said she considers it optional.

We discussed Clindamycin or Doxycycline. She said the Clindamycin has a high risk of C-diff and Dozy has the sun sensitivity thing. We decided to go with doxy. I started it yesterday but haven’t noticed much benefit yet. Hoping this works. She wants me to continue Flonase.

I told her about my response (or lack of) to guafenesin and decongestant. She suggested Claritin or Allegra instead of decongestant but I never take antihistamines with an infection, as it dries the stuff up worse.

Trav,
That’s interesting you took Xyzal. I took Xyzal long term at one point and never had any issue with it. It never dried me out like other antihistamines. Xyzal isn’t typically used for colds/allergies. I am not even really sure what it’s supposed to be effective for. I could never tell what it did.
Posted 12/21/2022 7:38 PM (GMT 0)
WBF,
I sure hope that helps you!!

It's really interesting what can work well for one person, doesn't help another at all. A lot like Lyme treatments, I guess.

Xyzal is a 24 hr antihistamine - drug name Levocetirizine. I now only use it when something like Zyrtec (Cetirizine) or Claritin (Loratadine) won't work for me, which is only when things get bad in my sinuses. Then out comes the Flonase (Fluticasone) to be used carefully, since it's a steroid.

I hope you feel better soon!
Posted 12/22/2022 5:03 PM (GMT 0)
So sorry you're feeling so sick! The list of supplements that were mentioned is pretty close to what my Lyme doc had prescribed for Covid. She's had me take Iver and Alinia when I've had it. I think Alinia was most effective. She also had me do a high dose vitamin A and vitamin D protocol. You can do this:
1. Bio-Ae-Mulsion Forte (Biotics Research) – 8 (100,000 IU) drops 4 times per day for TWO days only. Okay to repeat at the earliest onset of flu/viral symptoms.
2. Bio-D-Mulsion Forte (Biotics Research) – 25 drops (50,000 IU) once per day, for two days along with Vitamin A. Then continue 5 drops each evening.

If you have Fullscript you might be able to get this. It's super effective with all viral infections. I hope you feel better soon!
Posted 12/24/2022 7:14 PM (GMT 0)
MA10,
Thanks for the suggestions. I hadn’t heard of those. I will keep this for reference.

There’s some contraindication between Doxy and Vit A, so I will have to wait until after I clear the doxy.

Sorry to hear you were sick, too, and in a bad neurological flare as a result. Praying you get completely stabilized quickly with no recurrence.
Posted 1/16/2023 1:40 AM (GMT 0)
Hey, WalkingbyFaith:

I was looking back through this thread as well as some updates you posted on other threads (I think this one might have been the latest update) and wondered how you're feeling. Are you doing better?

Best wishes,
Dude
Posted 1/16/2023 1:31 PM (GMT 0)
Hey, Dude! I am pretty much back to normal now. A week ago, I had a sore, red spot in my throat and was at my primary doctor’s office for my annual visit. I got tested for strep, and that was negative, too.

Decided to take 1/2 Zyrtec and buy some Biotene mouthwash and use those, and it helped a lot. Have taken 1/2 Zyrtec 3 times in the last week and use the mouthwash before bed. Had some slight throat soreness last night. First time in 5-6 days. Not sure why.

I decided that maybe the harsh coughing was causing the irritated and inflamed spots in my throat, and I was having very dry mouth at night. The Zyrtec helped dry up the drainage and stop the coughing.

Hope you are feeling better, too.
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