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Posted 2/28/2021 7:53 PM (GMT 0)
NOTE: this would not work with current infections. Its for tissue recovery after the cause is eliminated. Muscle memory is a "thing" that limits motion sometimes with long term injuries, range of motions issues, limping ect.

***You need to grasp understanding of muscle /nerve memory to "get this".*** This naturally happens to protect you. When it stays around and does not reverse after the injury or infection(micro injuries) is/are corrected, well, thats a problem.

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I only had two arp wave appointments but that electronic gizmo was pretty intense. It made some lazy unconditioned muscles finally move more naturally instead of other muscles compensating.

**read the blue link a few comments down on the original discussion a few years ago with member dcd and myself.***

This is where the many forms of physical therapy to some extent fail people with chronic issues Because physical therapy cannot trick the nervous system and the nervous system is what controls your muscles .

This arp wave machine fools the nervous system , or to some extent , erases the memory it developed from past injuries And limited range of motion.

Some injuries are microscopic so when people say “I have no injuries “ , well that’s an incorrect statement for some people.

I will do more of this just In the near future right now I’m concentrating on NUCCA atlas positioning. I don’t have the time for both.

Post Edited (astroman) : 4/5/2023 2:36:12 PM (GMT-8)

Posted 3/1/2021 5:10 AM (GMT 0)
This is interesting as my daughter has a muscle that tightens up and cannot physical be moved when in a spasm. Chiropractor has tried to help to no avail.

I will have to research this therapy. Where did you have it done? What is the mechanism of action?
Posted 3/1/2021 6:29 AM (GMT 0)
It would prob help people with current lyme to, but Im guessing not as much since the cause is still there.

Ive been correcting the physical damage left behind, which for me was from a combination of sports impact injuries that didn't completely heal while having lyme for years. Untreated hypothyroid prob did some damage too. I would also get repetitive motion work injuries that no-one else would get doing the same thing.

Ive put some of this info on some other threads, here is this ARP and two other similar companies at the end of one of dcd's postings:.

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=4235392#gsc.tab=0

I locally googled these treatment names, and found a few providers. Some are chiros, a few PT's (not near me though), and some alternative "pain" clinics. The ARP wave is FDA approved, but some insurance companies are slow to cover new treatments - in that case, sometimes its all about how specific the treatment its billed and what codes are used. Generic treatment codes work the best to get covered (played that "game" more than once).

It only took a few years for dry needling to be covered,(still didnt work for me) but its similar to acupuncture in insurance eyes.
Posted 4/5/2023 10:29 PM (GMT 0)
Now that the pandemic is done.

These are the machine brands that I know of in order of performance and outcome quality, might be more too.

ARPWave

Phoenix Waveform

RST Sanexas

Neufit neubie

Wave RX100

I am going to try this again.

I started googling who has these, which takes forever. Clinics dont advertise these on the manufactures websites......that would be to simple. But any PT or Chiro clinic at the "Pro sports level" will know something about it. So you find out who treats your local pro or college teams that could be a first step. Some places lease these to you and do live media visit appointments after some introduction appointments.

I've improved a lot for my tissue function, but its like I still have some "injured" nuero signals, which is what these correct; deleting the old signal from when you were injured or diseased and making new "movement nerve signal memory patterns”.

Post Edited (astroman) : 4/5/2023 7:34:01 PM (GMT-8)

Posted 4/6/2023 1:22 AM (GMT 0)
If you recall I was at the spero clinic in Arkansas for 3m

They use the ARP and sanexas. You use them daily. Unfortunately will run you like $40k for 3m

The ARP really is a cool machine. If I could use it every day I would

It did fix my posture for a while. I have one functionally short leg and don’t use my glutes. As a result there is a presssure point on one side of my lower back where the muscle has contracted to make the legs even. If I get a massage I nearly feint when they knead it. No amount of yoga or stretching or trigger point release could fix it. They got rid of it w the arp. They also got me using my glutes which lengthened the tight tendons in my legs and nearly had me touching the floor. Fixing the posture does help calm the ans as well

Unfortunately most of my bad habits returned after leaving there. Wish I could use it daily tho like I said
Posted 4/6/2023 4:01 AM (GMT 0)
I can do this way cheaper, starting tomorrow if I wanted to. You were paying for a fancy clinic, above and beyond the normal price for using an APRwave machine.

That Spero place sounds ungodly expensive. And in Arkansas of all places, a lower income state. But ....Spero specializes in “Complex Regional Pain Syndrome”. Maybe due to your condition you needed that clinic?

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The places I contacted didn’t mention any fancy disorder name they, just call it “Neuro muscle memory”, which everybody has. Nothing really special about it.

I don’t plan on going to a well known specialty clinic. As this gets more common, the price is dropping. Even leasing one and doing appointments via live media would be much cheaper https://www.howmuchisit.org/arp-wave-machine-cost/

Some fitness related chiropractors have these now. A typical chiropractic appointment with modern equipment is still only $40-$80 per visit in North central US. In my case if a chiro or PT clinic takes my insurance, it’s $40 a visit. In that case even at five days a week for three months is 2700 bucks. And since this technology is now FDA approved, insurance is more likely to cover it, if the clinic itself accepts insurance.

I also found a functional medicine clinic that has these but of course that’s going to be more expensive than 40 a visit regardless of what you do at their appointment, so I doubt I will go there. (Most functional medicine doctors do not take insurance).

At the beginning of the pandemic, I had three visits (which was further to drive than what I care for), but just 80 bucks a visit using the ARPwave, with no insurance. I decided to spend my time and money on NUCCA first ($70 per appt) since my head was literally on my neck a little bit crooked.

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I remember when the dry needling was a new thing. It was so rare that it was $500 a session at some regional specialty clinics. I waited till It got more popular and then my insurance covered it for 40 bucks a visit. Good thing that’s all it cost me because it certainly didn’t work very well.

Post Edited (astroman) : 4/5/2023 9:02:11 PM (GMT-8)

Posted 4/6/2023 5:10 AM (GMT 0)
For the last year, I have been able to get my body down to “zero resting pain” on my own by the use of self myofascial release and trigger point release. I’ve learned a lot about this over the last decade, but it still has some limitation’s. I have even made some of my own trigger point release tools.

I want to be at the level of normal fitness where I can heavily exercise without needing to release tight areas when I’m done. The reason these tight areas return is because of neural muscle memory, which ARPwave, and competitive machines, should erase.
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