About to Take My First Antibiotic

about to take Amox Clav 875 MG for my dental infection that I have/had. Trying to keep a positive mindset. Hoping the mental part of me is worse than what I will actual feel. Who knows, maybe I will actually feel better from it. But I wanted to write this. To know how bad I have felt in the past with nothing, I am scared. I just want support and to hear good things right now. Like, am I gonna be okay? Am I gonna make it through? I worry so much. Naturally, who wouldn't after feeling like they were on the edge of it all going under many times before?

If there were a time to say anything, it would be now. I appreciate the help from each and every one of you and I hope you are doing well today. Please, wish me luck. Wish me better days. I have truly suffered enough.

Thanks, Garzie.

So far I am a bit nervous, have some shallow breathing, numbness in my right arm, slight discomfort in right wrist, sharp chest pains, eyes hurt, slight stomach discomfort but not a whole lot because I ate homemade chicken soup with it. Vision is a bit grainy... if that's the word. Thankfully no vertigo stuff at the moment, but I am lying down so maybe that's a plus. Also somewhat shaky. Nothing I can't handle at the moment though. I mean, it feels somewhat similar to how it's felt years ago. There's many scenarios as to why this may be but I'll just get through this and see. It's also weird how since I got sick in November 2022 (from what I think was a viral infection, from another person) I am less reactive. Maybe it gave my immune system a slap in the behind.

I'm feeling it now. The nausea sucks. Still, I'm not sure I can say it's as bad as the nearly never-ending dizziness/vertigo. Then again I don't have this symptom normally so we'll see. It's honestly a bit nice to have a change but I am definitely not comfortable.

Post Edited (Forest) : 6/1/2023 8:26:07 PM (GMT-8)

I think the worst part is having to take another now that I have the other in my system. I am hoping I can have a decent sleep on these. I will have to try and take them when I wake up and then again hours before sleep too, if I can. I will have to try and take them 30 to 60 minutes off each day to have them still be effective and budge the time appropriately. I just took my second one at 3.43 AM. Hopefully tomorrow I can try and take it at 3 PM and keep moving it over just a bit. I guess that's how the timing lined up for me.

Yes, I have. Unfortunately epsom salt baths make me feel awful. It's weird because I normally enjoy baths very much. I like warm water, always have.

Does it get worse when I keep taking them at the same dose as I go or should I expect to basically feel the same crappiness that I did when I took the first ones? And does anyone have any advice for how and when to take them? Especially as far as sleep and what not? This is where experience from everyone else helps me greatly as I don't have the experience with antibiotics and I just like to hear this stuff to get an idea. Or in general just talking to people helps. On the upside, I don't feel like I am full on losing my mind but I have moments where I am feeling that way. I was expecting to feel continuously bad (and I have) of of them, but maybe it's possible that I was doing poorly because it was the start of this major neurological stuff and I was hit really hard? I don't know. That's why I have no problem talking with people. The more I know, the better!

I have no doubt that it can contribute to dental issues. It makes sense. But for me, admittedly, I just did a crappy job at taking care of my teeth. I doubt for me that they came from anything but my wrongdoing, but I am taking responsibility now. Even when it hurts to get myself up to do it, I do it. I start with floss picks and then I pre-rinse with Essential Oxygen mouthwash (hydrogen peroxide with essential oils, aloe, etc. it's really about as clean as it gets, minus the gum arabic), then brush with Dr. Bronner's peppermint (or spearmint) toothpaste. I might work myself up to the cinnamon or anise (licorice) toothpaste, but if it ain't broken, don't fix it lol. Not to mention cinnamon can irritate MCAS, but a little bit at a time won't be as bad as scooping spoonfuls down your throat. But hey, maybe soon I'll make a change but I only try and do ONE change at a time to keep track of what's happening.

That's great to hear what worked for you. From my reattach and understanding, Kombucha is very irritating to those who suffer from this. Fermented foods are a no-no for those suffering this stuff and unfortunately can make things worse, because even though the gut needs healing, it's not the source of the problem (in this case), therefore it would simply become a problem again and activate histamine response (which is what fermented and alcoholic foods/drinks do). But again, if it works for someone, why not, right? I also do agree things I know tapping and meditation are great, but for me, I am much too into it for that to work. I guess it all depends on the person, but I am all about Kombucha and Eastern medicine practices.

I will say that the reason I would assume Kombucha would help with your dizziness and shakiness could be due to the production of GABA that Kombucha creates. This also acts like alcohol. Naturally, it will slow the CNS, but in return, things like various amines may come out to play. Again, if it works for you, then that's wonderful. I wouldn't;t be opposed to it down the line though. I just remember two years ago when things got crazy whenever I would eat sauerkraut or kimchi, I would get worse. They don't mix well with mycotoxins or MCAS and I found that out the hard way lol.

As for detox, it hurts me. I feel like it should be in my noted every time I post something on here. You got me thinking... lol. I know you are just trying to help though. It sucks when you are like me and a lot of the stuff that normally helps people hurts me. It's frustrating!

But can I assume you have healed or have gotten mostly better?

Forest - you can take amox-clav with or without food according to the label info

many people often find they have less issues with nausea if they take the abx with food - if that's allowed with that particular antibiotic - which it is with amox-clav

its not guaranteed to help - but its worth a try as it helps take the edge of nausea for a lot of people

you could also try ginger root tea or other forms of ginger ( Zingiber officinale) - as it has quite well demonstrated anti-nausea properties in conventional medicine studies

Garzie - Yes! Great to see this kind of comment. I am not sure I ever mentioned it, but I went to Cornell for Nutritional Sciences. What a better way to say that food is medicine haha. So what I do everyday is I take down some homemade chicken soup with it. It's got a handful of great ingredients, and sometimes I will add so many other veggies that it becomes a plethora of vegetables lol. Right now we don't have any celery because it's tough to find where I'm at so I try my best to replace it. I do try and be careful with ingredients so it's not affecting the way the Amox Clav works either. I will list them here and as a matter of fact, I will list my original recipe and directions if anyone cares (I'll do my best). I like to cook lol.

Recipe - Forest’s Chicken Soup - 2018-01-01 at 12.00 AM


Ingredients

- [ ] 2 tablespoons avocado oil or olive oil
- [ ] 6 cloves of garlic, minced
- [ ] 1 yellow onion, diced
- [ ] 4 large carrots, thinly sliced
- [ ] 4 celery stalks, roughly chopped
- [ ] 2 tablespoons fresh grated ginger
- [ ] 2 tablespoons fresh grated turmeric (or 2 teaspoons ground turmeric)
- [ ] 8 cups low sodium chicken broth
- [ ] 1/2 - 1 pound boneless skinless chicken breast
- [ ] 1 - 2 teaspoons freshly chopped rosemary
- [ ] 1 - 2 teaspoons freshly chopped thyme, stems removed
- [ ] 1 teaspoon sea salt or pink Himalayan salt
- [ ] Freshly ground black pepper (
- [ ] 1 cup brown rice
- [ ] 1 cup frozen peas
- [ ] 1 cup frozen corn


Instructions

- [ ] Remove frozen items from freezer so they can properly thaw first.

- [ ] Cook chicken breast in the oven. Then cook the brown rice on the stove. With a medium sauce pan, boil 2 cups of water, then add brown rice. Let it simmer on low (around 3 out of 10) for 25-30 minutes, or until most or all of the water is soaked up.

- [ ] Next, place a large dutch oven or pot over medium high heat and add in oil. Once oil is hot, add in garlic, onion, carrots and celery. Cook for a few minutes until onion becomes translucent.

- [ ] Add in grated ginger and grated turmeric. Sauté for 30 seconds to let the spices cook a bit, then add in chicken broth, chicken breast, rosemary, thyme, salt and pepper.

- [ ] Bring soup to a boil, then stir in brown rice. You’ll want the chicken to be covered by the broth so make sure you stir them down to the bottom. Reduce heat to medium low and simmer uncovered for about 15 minutes.

- [ ] If you find that you don't have enough broth, feel free to add more. Add in frozen peas and frozen corn. Cook for another 10 minutes or until the corn and peas are completely unfrozen. Everyone likes their soup differently so adjust if you’d like!

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Right now, we're replacing the celery with broccoli and zucchini. Sometimes they're be corn and/or peas, it all depends. Not trying to have a lot of grains but I did pick them up again and don't see to notice feeling worse from them, so long as I offset them with other foods containing lots of micronutrients. I also am watching my fat consumption during use as too much fat could get in the way of how much of the Amox Clav I am absorbing, but I can assure you that I am absorbing it, just ask my gut, it hurts lately no matter what I do! But it's not the worst. I've had pain most of my life, so to me, it's one of the easiest symptoms compared to the others.

Got a message from my doc that I can start taking activated charcoal again. Not really sure why but she had me avoid it before, maybe it was to se how I reacted, not sure, but she said that her and Neil Nathan recently had a discussion about how when it's an acute thing the body reacts differently. So I suppose I went with it. Doing my best to trust the info.

So now she to take it because yesterday I was bad. She said to contact her if it became intolerable, which I mean... it always seems that way for me. But she said to take it. So I took some charcoal. Might have taken a bit more than I should have and now I am feeling it almost instantly, which is strange because it was only minutes ago. It really wasn't too much, maybe 250 MGs at most. I also took down lots of water so it could do what it does best. But felt almost instant dizziness. Could have been how I was sitting up, not sure. Anxiety came with it though. Wasn't even worried either, I feel mostly comfortable with charcoal now.

I plan on taking my next Amox Clav in about an hour. She didn't give an exact time on any of it but I can only assume that is what she means since it's usually what most LLMDs seem to do with most binders before supplements, medications, food, etc.

It's day 5 on these, I still don't feel much better. I am not sure what to expect with this. Interesting that I am doing 1000 MGs at a time twice a day too, so I mean, that must be something. I'm pushing through though. I am a strong person, always have been, but that's the reason this is so bad for me. Can't help but always wonder about WHAT it is that I have considering the similarities with so many other illnesses too. Being from one "mystery Illness" to another really screws a person up. Most people who get this can focus on this one thing, but I have experience coming from other worlds that say that treatment actually makes you worse and you delay recovery. See how that freaks me out? Because these people are just like us. Same symptoms. But I am doing my best to work off from the positive results I have and hope it's really what it is. I hope I am doing this for good reason. I hope this antibiotic is doing more than just preventing or even killing off bacteria from a tooth infection. Please, give me a good return for this.