Is this as good as it gets?

Truthfully, I have no idea.

I remember Buhner saying that healing nerves with herbs can be done but takes long term use of the herbs - years. Lion’s mane and Chinese senega root were the two herbs he referred to.

Did you ever have an MRI before and after treatment? Did it show changes in the brain?

i would say that the brain is quite plastic, in the right conditions

people learn to walk again with 1/3 of it missing due to bullet wounds

i saw a gut on a talks show who had lost 1/3 of his brain in the Falkland's war and he was better than me at telling stories - a real raconteur - it was impressive - gives hope for us all

i think if it were me i would perhaps think about reading about and doing things that are known to promote brain plasticity.

it will not come easy - because we are built to conserve energy and avoid unnecessary growth of nerves / connections etc - and prune them all the time - its a use it or lose it situation for all of us - but its defo possible
-take on new challenges and =learn new things
-move your body - dance, tennis etc
-try some different brain training apps

i would do this along with perhaps some things that are good for brain inflammation and circulation
in case there is any residual inflammation there - even with no infection it can take time to settle down
ginkgo leaf is one option

i would also take some lions mane mushroom over the longer term - 6 months or more - contains a nerve growth factor ( the brain is made from nerve cells )

i would make sure there are lots of healthy fats in my diet ( is mainly what the brain is made from )
eggs, oily fish, olive oil grass fed meat etc

just some thoughts or ideas

WalkingbyFaith said...
Truthfully, I have no idea.

I remember Buhner saying that healing nerves with herbs can be done but takes long term use of the herbs - years. Lion’s mane and Chinese senega root were the two herbs he referred to.

Did you ever have an MRI before and after treatment? Did it show changes in the brain?

I was taking Lions Mane quite awhile ago… maybe I didn’t give it enough time.

I have had a few mri’s - but not after treatment.

Garzie said...
i would say that the brain is quite plastic, in the right conditions

people learn to walk again with 1/3 of it missing due to bullet wounds

i saw a gut on a talks show who had lost 1/3 of his brain in the Falkland's war and he was better than me at telling stories - a real raconteur - it was impressive - gives hope for us all

i think if it were me i would perhaps think about reading about and doing things that are known to promote brain plasticity.

it will not come easy - because we are built to conserve energy and avoid unnecessary growth of nerves / connections etc - and prune them all the time - its a use it or lose it situation for all of us - but its defo possible
-take on new challenges and =learn new things
-move your body - dance, tennis etc
-try some different brain training apps

i would do this along with perhaps some things that are good for brain inflammation and circulation
in case there is any residual inflammation there - even with no infection it can take time to settle down
ginkgo leaf is one option

i would also take some lions mane mushroom over the longer term - 6 months or more - contains a nerve growth factor ( the brain is made from nerve cells )

i would make sure there are lots of healthy fats in my diet ( is mainly what the brain is made from )
eggs, oily fish, olive oil grass fed meat etc

just some thoughts or ideas

Thanks Garzie

I’m getting exercise. Along with the elliptical and treadmill (daily) we will be riding our bikes to tennis courts once the weather warms up here (and the forest fires smoke abates.)
Also will be swimming in our lake soon - it’s a bit chilly now.

I’ve taken lions mane and ginkgo before - but maybe it’s worth a try again.
I’ll look at my husband supplements - he ordered 4 or 5 for the brain recently.

I do eat eggs, and olive oil but I don’t eat any fish (I can’t stand the taste of it.)
I do eat meat - but not “grass fed”

Girlie said...

I’m getting exercise. Along with the elliptical and treadmill (daily) we will be riding our bikes to tennis courts once the weather warms up here (and the forest fires smoke abates.)
Also will be swimming in our lake soon - it’s a bit chilly now.

exercise is good in many many respects - not only for brain health of course
but the specific bits that helps drive brain plasticity is learning new movements - eg dance, a sport or manual skill, ( tennis is a good example - as you are always leaning new movements - driving new coordination skills etc - as its this discomfort and persisting to practice that forces the brain to lay down new connections - ie be plastic)

Girlie said...
I do eat eggs, and olive oil but I don’t eat any fish (I can’t stand the taste of it.)
I do eat meat - but not “grass fed”

Omega 3's are very important for brain health - study shows a lack of them leads to developmental brain disorders in young people - and cognitive decline is also associated with v low levels
oily fish is one of the richest sources
so much so that getting enough without them in the diet can be difficult
vegetable sources relay on conversion into useable forms inside the body - which is inefficient

grass fed ruminant meat contains useful levels because its made by the bacteria that ferment the grass in their gut and produce these special fatty acids - this doesn't happen much with feedlot feeds used in most USA beef production - which drive a different gut environment in the ruminant vs grass

shellfish like oysters and mussels also have useful amounts - if you like those ?

if you are not getting sources of useful omega 3 in your diet right now - i would defo think about adding some
we cant know for sure in each individuals case ( having said that - maybe there are blood tests available now )
but a lack of this on its own could be enough to drive cognitive problems in the long run
so much like many vitamins etc - given your concerns and current low intake
i think it makes sense to add it as a kind of insurance plan

This quest can be endless and a matter of luck.

Ive had more wide range health testing than most people here, even dove into possible genetic needs and suppliments. Most supplements did nothing …..but I tried.

What does make a difference in my case is quality of sleep (not time), amount of exercise, amount of sun light, and having my thyroid level perfect. And low stress. And minimizing mental/nervous system stimulants.

Gut health and proper function also make a difference but not a huge one for me. That said, for some reason, D-limonine does wonders for my gut and brain (unlike anything else ever). It kills stuff and sooths inflammation simultaneously. I now take the lower 250mg Swanson daily.

astroman said...
This quest can be endless and a matter of luck.

Ive had more wide range health testing than most people here, even dove into possible genetic needs and suppliments. Most supplements did nothing …..but I tried.

i think the explanation for this is the "weakest link in the chain" type analogy

i.e. if we are already getting enough vitamin c or b-vitamins - or protein etc etc - ( or pretty much anything you can supplement with ) then adding more in the form of supplementation is likely to have very little effect - more is not necessarily better - as all the processes that need that particular nutrient or supplement are already happening.

i think this explains why most of us notice v little benefit from most supplements - but sometimes we find one that, for us, seems to have real benefit - but for others is in the other category - having little or no effect

but there are long term studies showing things like a simple multivitamin do increase lifespan - so there may well be long term benefits that we cannot necessarily feel on a day to day basis

so i do still take quite a number of them - its often hard to know which are really benefitting me - some i just treat as a kind of insurance ( as long as i feel confident they are not doing any harm )

“Hoping Canada gets rain soon. 🙏 The smoke dropped down into the north central US this week. Air quality alert this whole week, it got much worse this morning though. The sun was glowing red through the smoky sky. about 1 mile visibility.
Only being outside for a couple minutes -my jeans and cotton shirt smell like a campfire already. Eyes and throat have that campfire feel. And summer just started. 😳 “

This is the worst it’s ever been with forest fires.
…and it’s only June.
Forecast is for 80% rain on Friday. 🤞

Smoke hasn’t been bad where I live but that can change quickly.

Lynnwood said...
Regarding the fishy taste -- many people can eat salmon when they can't stand any other fish. Might be worth a try!

I live in the salmon fishing capital of the world but I hate salmon.
The only fish I like is Halibut

Hey Girlie,

I was wondering how you're doing with the short term memory? If any of us can help in any way, please let us know.

That's interesting MyJourney101, thank you for sharing.

This part particularly was interesting to me:

"Curcumin protects brain mitochondria against various oxidative stress. Pre-treatment with curcumin protects brain mitochondria against peroxynitrite (a product of the reaction of nitric oxide with superoxide) a potent and versatile oxidant that can attack a wide range of cells in vitro by direct detoxification and in vivo by the elevation of total cellular glutathione levels."

RainyCloud said...
Hey Girlie,

I was wondering how you're doing with the short term memory? If any of us can help in any way, please let us know.

I do think it has improved in the past several months.
My memory was tested when we bought a new car end of July - our last new car was in 2008.
Plus we bought an electric.
I was nervous for awhile but am finally getting used to it.

This morning when I woke up - laying in bed I remembered I had a hair cut appt and to check that the tv PVR was set up to record the US Tennis matches.

So - I do think my brain has healed some more - but it’s slow to happen.