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Posted 7/20/2023 7:11 PM (GMT 0)
BlazerGermany - in my view both would have an effect on LTT, including herbs which have multifarious mechanisms of action. Keep in mind that in the end, one might also consider more factors when making the decision that you're making - as it's not always possible or practical to interrupt treatment.
Posted 7/22/2023 6:47 PM (GMT 0)
19 Days to Go. As far is this goes my cocktail of healing earth, hawthorn, beta-blocker, MSM, vitamins, minerals, infra-red lamp, thymusextract, glutathion and epsom foot baths keep me going so far.

thats a hefty list but - no antibiotics or herbal abx so far!!
Posted 7/22/2023 9:07 PM (GMT 0)
How do you use the infrared lamp? I used it on my knee today for 5 minutes. I wanna make it a regular thing for more body parts.
Posted 7/23/2023 5:59 AM (GMT 0)
I use it for 15 minutes on my chest for my chest pain and 15 minutes for my Back so far.

I heard it helps getting rid of toxins too but i am Not Sure Abt this
Posted 7/23/2023 10:48 AM (GMT 0)
hello

welcome to the discussion and thank you for your contribution

but ref the below statement - is this more "shooting from the hip" - or are there references that support this view

the reason i ask is that when i have looked into the mechanism of action for bacteriostatic antibiotics - most authorities sources state that bacteriostatic antibiotics do indeed render bacteria more susceptible to the immune system

eg https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/nbk547678/

Mechanism of Action
Bacteriostatic antimicrobials most commonly function via the inhibition of bacterial protein synthesis pathways.

As a class, the primary mechanism of action of tetracycline antimicrobials is the reversible inhibition of the 30S bacterial ribosomal subunit.[6][16] This inhibition causes the arrest of bacterial protein production, which inhibits bacterial defenses and allows for host immune cells to eliminate the offending bacteria.

this also explains why patients experience herxhiemer reactions despite having taken only bacteriostatic antibiotics (which do not kill bacteria outright ) and in the absence of increased killing of damaged bacterial cells by the immune system would be hard to explain.

Idyllic said...
I would agree with the laboratory BlazerGermany. Having worked in a laboratory myself, it's fair to say that they know very well what they are talking about (it's a lot of repetitive work)

I do agree that the pace of bacterial multiplication may be slowed by certain antibiotics, but this does not necessarily render the germs more vulnerable to immune system capture. It's actually the antigenic characteristics of the bacteria and the efficacy of the host's immunological defenses that dictate how the immune system reacts to bacteria.
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Posted 7/23/2023 11:44 AM (GMT 0)
@Garzie \\ No, I'm not __shooting from the hip__ , which is an impolite thing to ask someone who is trying to help another person. Are you aware that my advice towards BlazerGermany is about helping someone that is very much sick as opposed to winning a trophy for knowledge?

Are you genuinely up for opposing viewpoints, as you declared in this very thread or are you just offended that someone has one that's different than yours? It's entertaining in fact, it's usually the people who note that they are very much tolerant of others, who truly aren't tolerant at all.

I have a feeling you don't like to be wrong. What an eccentric way to start discourse. That's all I have to say about this. Thank you for your time.
Posted 7/23/2023 12:03 PM (GMT 0)
i am sorry you feel offended - i had tried to be polite and respectful in asking the question

i too am interested in what is factual - and trying to help the OP

As Lyme patients we are told so much that is simply untrue, or is just what people repeat, having heard it elsewhere -
Whereas i am trying to get to what is objectively true - or at least what can be demonstrated with references to actual relevant published research into the topic.

This is a discussion forum after all - we can agree to disagree - one does not have to be mortally offended if people question our views or simply ask why we believe a certain thing.
Posted 7/31/2023 10:42 AM (GMT 0)
Hey Guys - my cd57 Test came Back and they Said its normal.

Does that mean anything? I still feel bad
Posted 7/31/2023 11:38 AM (GMT 0)
is often low in chronic lyme - but some studies show it can actually be high in some patients also though - so its another marker that is not absolute

some say that if its low during chronic illness - and then recovers during / after treatment then that can be used to track progress - but this of course does not apply if it is normal to begin with

in general though i would take a "normal" result as a good indication that your body is still producing a normal amount of natural killer cells - which is a good thing

it may be worth checking that the actual result it is indeed within normal range by both % of total cells - and by absolute count
Posted 7/31/2023 11:55 AM (GMT 0)
I will get the full result next week at the appointment so we will see.

Man that makes it even more complicated. I was kinda hoping it comss Back negative to verify my Diagnosis
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