Chlorine Dioxide (MMS) for treating Lyme Disease

I was curious if anyone here has used Chlorine Dioxide (MMS) for treating lyme disease. I tried a drop of chlorine dioxide and citric acid diluted in 2 cups of water, stirred it around, and took a "gulp" of the water, not the full glass. I did notice a herx. I took this with abx as well. I'm just experimenting a little bit with it. Definitely had a herx all weekend.

Just curious what other people's experience has been with it.

There's a lot of information out there about it:
https://websterkehr.com/chlorine_dioxide/

MSM does not like it as an alternative treatment:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide

Looks as though it can protect against SARS and COVID possibly:
https://dreddymd.com/2021/09/13/chlorine-dioxide-mms-blocks-sars-cov-2-spike-proteins/

People say it can treat just about anything. I'm not sure where the truth meets the fiction. Just curious to hear about real-life attempts to cure lyme with MMS.

I have to be careful with it, because I have stomach problems to begin with. When I took the "gulp" of water this weekend, I felt it burning my stomach a little and took petobismal to alleviate the burning sensation.

Good to know auzzie. Thanks for your advice.

It did smell a bit like chlorine to me. I have stomach issues as it is, so I probably should avoid it.

What Garzie said ^^^^

its better to stick to reputable sources of information when it comes to things you put inside your body

see warnings on both "MMS" and "CDS" on lymedisease.org here

https://www.lymediseaseaction.org.uk/latest-news/a-dangerous-miracle-solution/

there are degrees of risk -

and the reasoning that paraphrasing - "some group of people somewhere are promoting it - so its probably ok" is downright dangerous, in my view:

info on the risks with more authoritative references here:

"Chlorine dioxide is toxic, and limits on human exposure are required to ensure its safe use. The United States Environmental Protection Agency has set a maximum level of 0.8 mg/L for chlorine dioxide in drinking water.[46] The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), an agency of the United States Department of Labor, has set an 8-hour permissible exposure limit of 0.1 ppm in air (0.3 mg/m3) for people working with chlorine dioxide.[47]

Chlorine dioxide has been fraudulently and illegally marketed as an ingestible cure for a wide range of diseases, including childhood autism[48] and coronavirus.[49][50][51] Children who have been given enemas of chlorine dioxide as a supposed cure for childhood autism have suffered life-threatening ailments.[48] The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has stated that ingestion or other internal use of chlorine dioxide, outside of supervised oral rinsing using dilute concentrations, has no health benefits of any kind, and it should not be used internally for any reason.[52][53]

Many have complained to the FDA, reporting life-threatening reactions,[54] and even death.[55] "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/chlorine_dioxide

there is no argument that in high enough concentrations it can kill 99.9% of all known organisms - so would a flamethrower - but that doesn't make it a good idea to use that on humans

methylene blue, Antabuse are not in the same category - they have long term safety data to support their safe use

but not everything is a conspiracy ...

some things are just a poor idea

in these times of polarisations and a million personal truths fed by interest groups and social media - who defines what is misinformation - have you appointed yourself to that role?

i have posted what was the most readily available information on the product as a start point for people to see that there is another side to the story.
even if you were a person who believes everything the FDA says and does is part of a conspiracy - not all of the references there are from the FDA.

10 out of 10 reputable sources - like public health officials in many countries and respected newspapers from around the world condemn the product and the people promoting it - due to the obvious risks

i would just say that if you are someone that is prepared to believe all of these independent sources from around the world are wrong - and you are somehow right - and you are aware of the risks and choose to do something dangerous to your own body - then that is your choice

but encouraging others to do the same, when there is at the very least some significant level of risk involved is a whole different thing...

the board is not "attacking CD" two independent members have simply posted their view that the product is a hoax and has significant risks attached - as balance to the other posts positioning it as a bonafide treatment

many people come here desperate for cures - answers etc. and are vulnerable to being sucked into unsubstantiated fringe treatments - which can be anything from dubious, to useless to downright dangerous.
they often come here looking for a balanced perspective from a variety of members on any potential treatment

isn't that exactly what support forums like this are for - for people to share their views and gain a better understanding? That process involves obtaining views from both sides of any argument.

Garzie said...
but not everything is a conspiracy ...

some things are just a poor idea

in these times of polarisations and a million personal truths fed by interest groups and social media - who defines what is misinformation - have you appointed yourself to that role?

Going by your post history you obviously have and here you are.

OP asked for personal experiences with the modality. Nowhere did they ask; is it safe? Nowhere did they ask for the safety spec sheet. If you don't have any experience perhaps you should keep your opinion as that is not what was asked. Feel free to start a new thread further condemning bleach or whatever you choose.

And no, it is not "basically bleach" for anyone who understands basic chemistry. That is misinformation by the very definition.

Healing will not occur with a racing mind and ill will so save the cheap shots.

OneCent007 said...
As with ANY substance, get as much info as possible before using topically, internally, etc. Chlorine Dioxide (CD) is not bleach but contains similar building blocks. Search Jim Humble, Kerri Rivera, Andreas Kalcker for detailed info.

Using DMSO is like putting CD in hyperdrive and DMSO is such an effective delivery agent, it will cause anything bad to be absorbed into your system along with CD, e.g. toxic soapy film on your skin, residue on your drinking glass, impurities in water, etc. I think it goes through the blood-brain barrier. SO be even more EXTREMELY careful when combining CD with DMSO. I have not yet taken CD, but have some general fatigue and foggy brain so plan on starting with a very low dilution to start which is what every source I have read also recommends. Since remedies like this are never "standard of care" and are lambasted by the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma-controlled gov't agencies, people end up dosing themselves with NO experience and knowledge of interactions with other substances and pre-existing conditions and no doubt there will be tragic but usually avoidable disasters. Desperation can cloud judgment.

I suspect people effectively using CD don't want to advertise it due to the backlash they get from naysayers and the complexities of using it to heal diseases and not wanting to be responsible if someone else misuses it. The intent of the above is to share some general info and cautions I have internalized during my research on CD. Verify everything before proceeding.

For any preppers out there, CD is what is used to kill bacteria in unsafe drinking water, so if you want to be prepared for any future water supply issues, not a bad idea to have some on hand.

I think this is correct. It is very difficult to have an open and honest conversation about this treatment because of the hype. However, I believe it does need to be done very carefully. My first attempt at using it was an experiment. It was not gentle on my stomach. I only used a small amount. I did follow the instructions, but perhaps there are other ways to administer it. I would advise people to go low-and-slow if they are interested in this treatment. See how they react to a low dose first. I think there is a real potential for harm if not done properly.

I am interested in attempting to use it again. I believe it may be effective against super bugs like MRSA. I'm not sure how effective it is against lyme disease.