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Posted 10/1/2023 1:53 PM (GMT 0)
Slooooooowly building herbal protocol as recommended/planned.

What's the single best herb for babesia?

No herbal combos, one herb.
Posted 10/1/2023 4:32 PM (GMT 0)
Derek,

Herbs work best in synergy with other herbs. That’s how Buhner developed his protocols. I don’t recommend trying to treat with a single herb, but I do recommend only adding one antimicrobial herb at a time.

The 3 herbs most frequently used for babesia are artemisia, cryptolepis, and Sida acuta. I have used all 3 and had different responses to each. Everyone is different, so some people notice nothing with one and get hit hard by another.

My memory is fading, but I believe Buhner seemed to believe Sida acuta was more effective. Sida acuta is also in his bartonella protocol. I found Sida acuta to be herx provoking.

Keep in mind that artemisia and cryptolepis are used for many other infections and are usually part of herbal parasite treatments. Sida acuta is not a commonly used herb, as far as I know, but Buhner recommended it.

Bidens pilosa was also in Buhner’s babesia protocol. I used it extensively and felt instinctively like it was a good herb and useful, but I didn’t feel noticeable effects from it.
Posted 10/1/2023 4:50 PM (GMT 0)
there is limited scientific info on this in humans Derek
its the same issue as we have for many herbs and infections
there is no business case to pay for the large scale testing of naturally available products like herbs - as they cannot be patented - so we have instead historical herbal use - and some small scale in vitro experiments only

from the herbal historical use perspective - Cryptolepis seems to be Buhner's recommendation and based on cryptolepis use for malaria in africa - and anecdotally people report using this for Babesia - usually combined with other things - like artemether or artemisinin, coartem and maybe one or two others.

from the medical research perspective - Zhang did do a study on herbs for babesia a few years ago and i think knotweed, oregano oil, maybe black walnut or black pepper, maybe allicin or garlic ( I'm going from memory) , Cryptolepis and a few others were in that trial - but we have to bear in mind that this as done by adding the alcoholic extracts directly to the test tube - not in a live human or animal that took them orally - so we cannot confidently say that they are as effective when taken orally at typical doses - due to issues of absorption, distribution and liver metabolism

so i would say Cryptolepis is a good place to start for an antimicrobial - but bear in mind cryptolepis is very broad in its action - active for lyme, bartonella and babesia - and many other gram positive and gram negative organisms i believe - so i would expect a strong reaction - i think i started on something like 1/40th of the target dose

that said - in your shoes i think i might be inclined to try things that might help my overall symptoms picture ( reduce inflammation) and help the immune system - before i started any strong antimicrobials - so that you have some leeway / headroom when you do start anti-microbials - and are less likely to be ultra reactive.
Posted 10/2/2023 9:11 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the info guys!

Yeah right now I've only started Japanese knotweed which I am reacting to, and plan on building from there, I was just curious regarding the babesia component.

Looks like JN hits some babesia as well, it's hard to say.
Posted 10/2/2023 11:36 PM (GMT 0)
My llmd said artemesinin. I thought sida acuta had some effect because it definitely took away my terrible migraines along with the terrible head pressure I was getting. I can't take sida thought because it acts as a stimulant and I don't ever want to try any herbals like that because lots are act as stimulants and I have heart issues. May I ask why you won't try abx for babesia?? My llmd uses certain meds bt says some babs abx can cause bad hallucinations which scared the crap out of me . Oh well it's either herbal or abx. Tbh the herbs mad3 me herx way more than abx. Been 3 months on abx. Taking bactrim and azithromycin and I can't complain about herxing because I really don't. Just more brain fog really and some neuro issues like anxiety and depression. And my llmd says bactrim hits babesia as well. Azithro is for the bart and lyme really. I use fresh garlic and ginger a lot. I do sauna and bentonite clay water.
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