What are your rife experiences

I'm sure this has been discussed here but want to bring it back. I recently spoke with someone who had full recovery after rife (post abx) and it's one thing I never tried. What is anyone's experience here?

i have no direct experience - but there was a v long thread on lymenet on rife

it was one of the largest threads there - and several people reported considerable success

I used rife once for Babesia and herxed monstrously! I never tried again because I determined I was far too sensitive for it, but I do not doubt that it is an effective antimicrobial strategy.

Holy cow looks like I need to try a rife! They're so damn expensive though, did you guys buy one new?

These are great, thanks so much. Do these things ever come up used? I feel like it's the kind of thing that would be shared communally

What is needed for a rife to work? There is a True Rife F122 for sale near me but its just the generator. It says it hooks up to my laptop and is controlled that way. Does that sound accurate to anyone?

i think they are basically amplifiers - so you can run a program on the computer or laptop that generates the signals - and the spooky box amplifies that signal - you then need some piece of hardware that generates the electromagnetic waves - coils, plasma tube etc

video on the setup of hardware and software here - its for spooky - but the TrueRife seems much the same

https://www.spooky2videos.com/video/how-to-set-up-both-hardware-and-software-to-use-spooky-central-jp/

https://diypemf.com/a-simple-pemf-device/
+ a free online tone generator (set to left only audio output). Set to square wave.

Great way to make a rife via PEMF output for <$35.

You can also use this for FSM based stuff but only the left audio connector is live on the aux for that PEMF device.

Happy to share more details if anyone wants to give it a go.

Post Edited (loski01) : 4/10/2024 5:18:54 PM (GMT-8)

Aerose91 said...
Loski01- heck yah I'd be interested!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/182229258772?itmmeta=01hv7be4x11x4y3yyj5a7ycah0&hash=item2a6db5d214:g:6joaaoswt6pvvatg&itmprp=enc%3aaqajaaaawhvhrbirsoilcl%2blcoyebh9q0vvlzdccco4khszpifyll2ha8v3zj84wtpc7tlfemcemljstub1zuersfyvguamuqra2byefburszsmmgssfvqegf9dqpbn91kuxnq4jhojeco2klxgrqmji%2bur2m08zsnue9mc%2Frvswfeel2x%2bieayy0dr3jpyut%2Fngypdfzm3utwcdbueqhlecl%2Fskzbcl2gdnjkilhaqpoxkoyyhvidnrmyossljk5katbvasog%3D%3D%7ctkp%3abk9sr8zouovzyw for the coil

https://onlinetonegenerator.com/multiple-tone-generator.html - google frequency lists for whatever you're trying to do and set to square wave. I do volume at 100% on the generator, 50% on my output device. Set to L output.

That blog has some good info but you don't need to setup frequencies how he did in 2010.

Given I don't use rife personally. I like FSM stuff. I bought another device for that but started at home with this and found some things more helpful then others. I was also playing frequency sets on top of on another as you can't use the right output. The blog says you can do that with rife frequencies too. You can get an EMF meter an amazon to confirm your field strength (not necessary).

Frequencies can be given a variety of ways. Rife used a plasma coil, modern adaptations used contact pads with a current, wave 1/nikki uses light, PEMF is a nice medium IMO.

Garzie I measured the gauss on this. The blog does also. Given I don’t have your background, the strength is adequate from both observations in comparison to industry recommended for low to medium intensity PEMF.

The blog also measured the distortions. 25hz-10,000hz had little to no issue.

Post Edited (loski01) : 4/11/2024 1:29:32 PM (GMT-8)

firstly, just to point out that I'm not here to burst anyone's bubble or do anyone down.

Quite the contrary, my aim is to supply factual information that can be supported to help people make better decisions about the health and not get sucked into things that are going to wasting their time or their money

So, the background is we've understood very well the laws that govern magnetic field in coils and electric motors for several hundred years now, and they're very well defined - there is no mystery involved

the equation that governs the maximum magnetic flux you can generate with a coil is represented by

2 x pi x 10^-7× N x I / R.
were
N is the number of turns
I is the current
R is the radius of the coil

in fact, there's even online calculators available now that you can put the parameters of your device into and it will calculate with a high degree of accuracy the maximum field you can generate from a given coil configuration

this means, while I have 20 years experience dealing with electromagnetic devices and a pretty good grasp of the proportionality of effects involved - you don’t have to take my word for anything here –

here's one such calculator
https://www.accelinstruments.com/magnetic/magnetic-field-calculator.html

it shows if you put in sensible values for the coil described in that article – eg we know the maximum current driving capacity of the tiny amplifier chip that drives a headphone jack = 1milliamp ( 0.001 amps). the specification for the number of turns on the coils in that article is available on the internet - which is 40 turns of 28guage standard magnet wire.

the calculator then calculates is the maximum strength of electromagnetic field you can generate to be 0.0005 milliTesla

screen shot of the calculation using the above calculator here
https://i.ibb.co/dfg79ry/coil-calc.jpg

now compare this to the EMF strength of low to medium intensity PEMF devices supported by studies - which in most studies - is 0.4 up to 10 milli tesla
ref this paper which is a meta analysis of the research on the topic
https://journals.cambridgemedia.com.au/wpr/ahead-print/integrative-review-pulsed-electromagnetic-field-therapy-pemf-and-wound-healing

you can see the output achievable from the headphone jack is an utterly minuscule fraction of anything that would be considered even low level PEMF - even being as generous as possible and using the lower limit of what was described as field strength for low intensity PEMF, this level is – 800 times less field strength than the lowest intensity PEMF described in the studies (0.4/ 0.0005) or almost 20,000 times lower if you use the upper figure(10/0.0005).


to give some context for the proportionality here – the earth’s own magnetic field that we are all walking around in all of the time is in the region of 5 to 10 milli tesla – so low power PEMF is already very low power indeed, compared to the noisy EMF environment all around us all of the time.

Or again as a means of gaining some sense of proportionality – using sound waves as an analogy – 800 times is approximately how much louder a Boeing 747 jet is at take-off vs a mosquito in flight – so imagine trying to hear a mosquito while an airline takes off overhead.

so, while there might well be a guy on a forum or a blog somewhere that says different or that he's measured it, it’s just a nonsense - its apparent from the article that he has a very poor grasp of what he is talking about – and has likely somehow incorporated some kind of wishful thinking along the way. I would not trust such a person to be able to measure the actual gauss properly.
I’m afraid he has either made a series of errors e.g. with background interference or the decimal point or is quite deluded.

again – Loski - I am sorry if this is unwelcome information -
my intention is only to help provide factually supportable information that can help people make better choices about their health

please inspect the above workings and sources – this is not something you just have to choose who’s opinion to believe – Rather it’s something that can be easily derived from first principles by anyone with a basic understanding of the simple physics involved.

Note. If you want the field strength in Gauss (rather than Teslas - the Si units) it’s a simple conversion.

Online converter here https://i-converter.com/magneticfield/millitesla-to-gauss

which shows 0.0005 millitesla is 0.005 Gauss

overall - of all of the alternative therapies out there - i think PEMF / Rife is one of those that is likely to have something to it - but just like anything else - you need to be able to distinguish the real science and real devices - from the simulacrum products that are simply cashing in.

“ now compare this to the EMF strength of low to medium intensity PEMF devices supported by studies - which in most studies - is 0.4 up to 10 milli tesla”

“which shows 0.0005 millitesla is 0.005 Gauss” - which means 10 gauss = 1 millitesla.

I personally measured the output of said device and produced gauss over the range my device could read (which off hand I believe is anything over 999 gauss) - from your conversion that’s 99 millitesla. Well over the range of the study you cited. In fact when the gauss goes above a “medium range” some find it less pleasant. My experience backs this also, hence why I set output device to 50% volume.

I have a separate fsm based device I got from a practitioner that I’ve had a similar experience - although I find the field to be “greater”.

FSM for example uses an incredibly small current but still has a great effect on the body. I’ve watched my dad reverse his post Lyme neuropathy in his feet from it. People find benefit from earthing mats, there’s some studies out there on those. You speak of emf’s we’re exposed to like they’re breezes in the wind but there’s good data on EMF’s increasing fungal growth rate and mycotoxin release. Reproductive consequences from cellphones and laptops. Your WiFi router has a warning not to keep your head too close to it.

I can’t explain your formula but my numbers don’t lie either and that hasn’t been solidly debunked here other than downing me out in info.

Post Edited (loski01) : 4/13/2024 9:44:26 AM (GMT-8)

There may be some errors in my recollection of numbers. I appreciate your insight on tech specs but even with a decimal error then we circle back to PEMF min strengths and all those beliefs - which we have more difference of views on. But I still stand by these having value and maxing out my meter at home, especially at the cost of a typical 30 day supplement on Amazon.

I think theres enough discourse here for people to make their own decisions / further research.

Spooky 2 also looks decent for the price if you want an independent generator via PEMF (they also sell coils).

All the best.