Tendinitis/Joint Pain

Fourthwing_22 said...
I’ve had tendinitis above my knee for four years & now I get pain all over my joints and when I get injured I don’t heal. I started taking modified cowden herbs. Does anyone have any remedies or treatment especially the tendinitis? I’ve been on it for almost 2 weeks, I’ve seen some improvement in tiredness but that’s about it so far. Thank you!

Welcome to the forum, Fourthwing.
Do you have a Lyme doctor to guide you?

I have done physical therapy 3 times and hasn’t helped, but I didn’t know I had Lyme. I do rest & do ice massages.

I’ve heard of BPC-157, I might see if I could explore that possibly after my Lyme treatment. And I was going to start going to infrared saunas!

Good to know, I do unfortunately have a histamine intolerance too.

I don’t think so… it all started after I took accutane. It might have been flared and I had Lyme at the same time. Thank you!!

I understand, often the 'standard treatments' don't work for us so we need to find alternatives elsewhere.

I'm unsure how infrared saunas would help the tenditis directly as saunas are for detoxification? but they help many people with lyme because lyme

It does sound like a herx reaction if your symptoms increased after starting the herbs

Be careful with working out if you have ME / CFS, but I know some people who don't have that find exercise beneficial

Do you mind sharing a bit more about what happened with and after the accutane? because I took that just before I got ill as well!! and had looked in the past to find people who became unwell after it but I couldn't find anything so I wasn't sure if there was a link or not

@astroman - Yeah I’ve always been a multi sport athlete. My whole idenity was revolved around sports. Thank you, after I get my Lyme treatments down I will definitely check this out! I tried one session of shock wave therapy, but I felt like it increased my pain.

@pinkblossom - Yes, the infrared sauna is supposed to help with detoxification & joint pain but I do not think it would help my tendons. Only workouts I do are pilates 1-2 a week and go on walks. Not trying to overburden myself at this time.

My dry eye specialist validated that my issues sparked from accutane. I think I got Lyme first since I never had a bullseye rash but I think it has to do with toxic load. Once we get a disease if you get exposed to mold, covid, accutane, chemicals, Lyme etc your toxic load will be high & your immune system will be compromised. Unfortunately, I think the damage has been done for dry eye - but I take supplements & limit screen time. But it started with tendinitis… two years later I got extreme dry eye, & all my other Lyme symptoms like tiredness, more joint pain, brain fog, GERD… none of my doctors or specialist ever even tested for Lyme. But now I know it’s a combination of accutane, mold, and Lyme. Still trying to figure out how to reverse it but I think it is about eradicating the Lyme & boosting your immune system. If you have the funds I’d check your levels in your blood from a function MD or PA. She’s helped me the most so far!!

Fourthwing- There can be many causes, but If you actually do have Lyme disease, Your tendinitis is most likely from lyme disease itself. But For some people, just figuring it out if they have Lyme disease or not is half the battle.

After I treated with antibiotics, I didn’t get new tendinitis. So that tells me my tendinitis was from infection. The old tendinitis took a long time to heal. But I mentioned those therapies that helped it.

Sometimes my tendons can get tight when my thyroid level is off. But that’s different than what it felt like when Lyme disease was rampant - had it over my whole body. Neck, shins, elbows, shoulders, tendons near the knee and ankles, wrists and forearms.

There is documented literature on the Internet from lyme studies, mentioning calcified tendons. As bad as it sounds, it’s not permanent.

Post Edited (astroman) : 5/17/2024 7:31:55 PM (GMT-8)

I want to both chiropractic and physical therapy before during and after lyme treatment.

Before antibiotics : what I call standard chiropractic where they just crack you, Only helped for a couple days after the visit before and during lyme treatment. Physical therapy did nothing then, Except cost me money.

During antibiotics, I was just a complete mess.

After antibiotics, both chiropractic and physical therapy helped. But the trademark “active release technique” helped my tendons more than anything.

I have what appears to be permanent tendon scarring in some areas. So those areas really don’t hurt anymore, but they just aren’t as flexible as they should be. So I can now play my guitar (Never will be good though) but I can’t play very fast. My fingers just do not move that fast. But it Does not result in tendon pain.

One more thing to keep in mind, Hashimoto hypothyroid can do similar to your tendons and muscles. In my case, I have to keep both in check.

many people here have thyroid problems and might not be aware of it. Sometimes it goes away after lyme treatment, sometimes not.

And, a good portion of people being treated for Low thyroid are not being treated optimally. Conventional doctors are terrible at this.

Plus, Hashimoto can be a different animal than just regular low thyroid since it’s auto immune.
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Post Edited (astroman) : 5/31/2024 6:59:25 AM (GMT-8)

Omega33 said...
my tendon pain and inflammation was from BARTONELLA which needs rifabutin and clarithromycin to kill the bacteria in the tendons. No more tendon pain after 3.5 years on this combo.

I took that too. The Most well-known name Is Biaxin.

My LLMD really didn’t believe in testing, since almost none of it works. He used the “shotgun technique” which is throwing the most wide variety antibiotics at it as possible. I was on seven different varieties. Maybe eight I really don’t remember anymore.

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I just did 12 pull-ups two hours ago. Most 57-year-olds can’t do that. Last fall I was up to about 18 on a good day. I need to get back up to that.

Point being, 10 years ago when my shoulder tendons were shot with/from tick infections, I could not do hardly any, even though I weigh the same.

Post Edited (astroman) : 6/1/2024 7:13:17 PM (GMT-8)