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Posted 4/28/2024 5:07 PM (GMT 0)
Very similar symptoms to what I’ve read women’s hot flashes are like.

This wakes me up around six to 7 o’clock on the early morning so I can’t sleep to 8 o’clock as I usually would like to.

In the past, when my thyroid was off, since that’s a hormone, even though I’m a guy, it would give me nighttime hot flashes.

I’ve also read that digestive infections like sibo can do this as well.

I’m cold at night around midnight when I go to bed, turn the heat down and then wake up early morning hot. If I don’t throw the bed sheets off, I will start sweating.

My gut and sleep malfunctions have been so odd the last six months. I’ll sleep for three nights and I’ll get happy about it and post about my results, then it goes backwards again.

My health was pretty good for about four years the best it’s been in 30 until last summer.

Post Edited (astroman) : 6/2/2024 9:39:25 AM (GMT-8)

Posted 4/29/2024 2:41 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Astroman,

Sorry to hear you are not doing well. Have you done tests? Hot sweats can be be related to many hormonal and thiroyd issues.
Posted 4/29/2024 3:40 PM (GMT 0)
A little Bee, Thanks for the thyroid reminder !

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No sweats/hot flash this AM at least.

I Did a thyroid panel last month, was a little low, not much though. Prob should repeat.

Maybe one of these are off, Ive not done these in years:

- cortisol & DHEA(adrenal gland) -ATCH(pituitary)
- and testosterone

Post Edited (astroman) : 6/2/2024 9:40:50 AM (GMT-8)

Posted 6/2/2024 5:38 PM (GMT 0)
Well, two weeks ago I got some more lab testing:

1)complete thyroid Panel; My T4 and T3 are both a little low in my opinion, but the doctor likes to treat with TSH level. I tried to kindly explain to him that that’s total BS and I need more thyroid hormone in me.

2)DHEA; I was in mid range so that’s normal

3)testosterone; I was 75% up into the range roughly 650 which is pretty good for a 57-year-old.

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I recently started spreading out my pig thyroid doses into more than two doses a day and take 1/4 of the dose before bedtime, ****which seems to be decreasing my Early a.m. sweat hot flashes at 5-7 AM.***

***This pretty much proves that my body needs more thyroid hormone.**

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When someone is low on their Thyroid hormone and they’re also taking T3, which is the faster acting hormone, vs T4, you should feel better if you spread the T3 throughout the day. In that case, you’re basically functioning on T3 if that is higher than T4, which is common With patience taking NDT pig thyroid. That is what happened when I took 1/4 of my dose before I went to bed.

Post Edited (astroman) : 6/2/2024 9:42:11 AM (GMT-8)

Posted 6/2/2024 6:22 PM (GMT 0)
I've gotten the hot flashes and sweats, and my thyroid is fine. I generally attribute it to CYP3A4 breaking down testosterone and estradiol. When I had my hormone levels tested, the numbers were up and down, not consistent at all.

What's stimulating the CYP3A4 production isn't entirely clear to me. Too much vitamin D can do it, but I also suspect some bacterial toxins.

Also, borrelia scavenges cholesterol, and I suspect it picks up some steroid hormones along with it. Then these hormones get released later. It really whacked my hormone levels.
Posted 6/2/2024 6:45 PM (GMT 0)
CYP3A4 gene so many bad possibilities and is pretty much impossible to prove beyond assuming things (or outrageous amounts of lab work).

Quin said...
I've gotten the hot flashes and sweats, and my thyroid is fine.

Fine by a doctors opinion or fine by your opinion? That is a serious question cause most doctors don’t know squat about thyroid.

So both of your thyroid antibodies have been tested?

T3 and T4 are At least in the middle of the ranges versus low or just looking at TSH?

Hopefully, I’m not preaching to the choir, but many people don’t know these things, Unfortunately, neither do average doctors.🤔
Posted 6/2/2024 6:47 PM (GMT 0)
On that note, I’ve never felt better on higher vitamin D levels in the 60s, which is where functional doctors like it to be. It seems to me it actually create some light anxiety. I feel better without it even in the winter time when it’s only light outside for 7.5 hours and I’m inside at work.
Posted 6/2/2024 9:38 PM (GMT 0)
Astroman, same here for the vitamin D. Took high doses for a while and even went above the normal range on blood work. Did absolutely nothing for me.

I was reading this pretty good article by this doctor and she was arguing how vitamin D recommendations should be individualized, given that everyone experiences it different. She made a good argument for it too.
Posted 6/2/2024 11:33 PM (GMT 0)
In the winter time after sometime several weeks of clouds and then mostly darkness it feels mentally good to stand out in the sunshine, even if it’s cold. But I’m not so sure it physically does something Better for me.

Even taking a supplemental vitamin D last winter, I didn’t really feel any different than other winters without it and certainly didn’t feel as good as just standing in the sunshine!
Posted 6/2/2024 11:44 PM (GMT 0)

astroman said...
Well, two weeks ago I got some more lab testing:

1)complete thyroid Panel; My T4 and T3 are both a little low in my opinion, but the doctor likes to treat with TSH level. I tried to kindly explain to him that that’s total BS and I need more thyroid hormone in me.

2)DHEA; I was in mid range so that’s normal

3)testosterone; I was 75% up into the range roughly 650 which is pretty good for a 57-year-old.

—————————
I recently started spreading out my pig thyroid doses into more than two doses a day and take 1/4 of the dose before bedtime, ****which seems to be decreasing my Early a.m. sweat hot flashes at 5-7 AM.***

***This pretty much proves that my body needs more thyroid hormone.**

———————

When someone is low on their Thyroid hormone and they’re also taking T3, which is the faster acting hormone, vs T4, you should feel better if you spread the T3 throughout the day. In that case, you’re basically functioning on T3 if that is higher than T4, which is common With patience taking NDT pig thyroid. That is what happened when I took 1/4 of my dose before I went to bed.

My husband splits his thyroid pill into three pieces and takes a piece three times a day.
He doesn’t tell the Dr - he just does it.
He feels better dosing that way.
Posted 6/3/2024 3:09 AM (GMT 0)
astroman: My T3, T4 and TSH were all in the normal range, and I didn't have any symptoms that would specifically indicate hypothyroidism (as distinct from adrenals, or something else. My adrenal function was very clearly inadequate.)
Posted 6/3/2024 3:57 AM (GMT 0)
Just a heads up :

Many people with these tick infections are going to have thyroid problems, sooner or later.

Thyroid ranges were decided upon by testing the general public, young and old.

There is sometimes a big difference in how someone feels from the bottom of these ranges to the top of these ranges, even though both ends of it are still in the range. That is the difference between being in range and being optimal.

Plus, we each have a specific area within those ranges that we feel best on.

At least 25% of the typical symptoms from tick infections, overlap with hypothyroid symptoms (and vice versa).

Personally, I think everybody here should have thyroid both antibodies tested. Because you can have high antibodies before the thyroid hormones actually start to go low. And we all know that these infections can cause autoimmune conditions.
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