LLMD's Are they saying its best to get vaccinated or not?

Be aware that the flu vaccine does contain mercury as a preservative...so those of you concerned about heavy metal toxicity might want to discuss this with your doctors...

This is a touchy subject, but I think saying "misinformed individuals are scaring the public" is a false statement.

I think there are 2 sides of course and each person has to make the right choice for them and their family and live with that choice. I did lots of research and spoke to alot of people who have done over 15 years worth of research on vaccinations. I choose not to vaccinate my toddler, but I would never judge someone else that chooses to vaccinate theirs.

I have met moms who have children, less than 1 yr old who are covered in eczema and itch so severely that they cause their scalp, arms, face, to bleed and their moms have to cover their hands in socks. The eczema showed up only after the vaccinations. I know 2 teenage girls who got the cervical cancer vaccination and can no longer walk or talk. I know another girl who got it and is fine. When things like that hit close to home, it's hard to ignore it.

I think it effects different people in different ways which is why we all have to make our own choice... and live with it.

Thanks everyone for your input.

Hope_29  &  Sunshine 20090909

I will give you some info on Brucella and if you have more questions just ask I will try to answer them (I don't have all my info in front of me right now)

My daughter will be starting the treatment of  Doxy 100mg + Rifampin 300mg twice daily   (to get at Bart and lyme too) She is 12 yrs old.

      Children under 8 yrs usually are given       Bactrim/Septra + Rifampin

Optimal treatment is -- Combination therapy: Doxy + Streptomycin (or gentamincin)--these are intramuscular injections

           or                       Triple therapy           : Doxy + Streptomycin + Rifampin

                                                                        Doxy + Bactrim/septra + Rifampin

Using other antibiotics and not treating long enough has a high relapse rate.

Well, we live on a farm and have horses, dogs, cats and she was always outdoors or with them. (Started to notice symptoms of whole mess 2005)

I am not totally sure how she got it but it can also be transferred by ticks (brucella occurs in wild animals too),  or actual animals although not much is said about it. Things you read about it try and make it sound like you only get it from drinking unpasteurized milk and cheese etc. and its rare and only in 3rd World countries..  That is why I think LLMD's need to get up to speed with it, because I think a lot more people with Lyme and coinfections have it and don't know and it's never checked.  Probably a factor why not getting better after a certain point.

Her fever also is usually highest in the morning. (reverse pattern)

I had her tested 3 times: 1st & 3rd-- Quest Labs: Brucella IgM IgG  (Can do Febrile Reactions Panel which includes Brucella, if checking other things that cause fever

                                                                                                                                          also incudes Weil- Felix Test which checks for Proteus OX19, OX2, OK

                                                                                                                                          which if positive can be an indicator to support Brucella even

                                                                                                                                          though negative but low titer present, because only positive with

                                                                                                                                          Rickettsial Diseases, Brucella, Salmonella(Typhoid Fever),Proteus 

                                                                                                                                          Vugaris (first time did panel and third just Brucella and Weil-

                                                                                                                                           Felix)

She was showing up on Proteus OX19 and OX2  , Low titer on Brucella IgM & IgG  and positive on Salmonella (typhoid Fever)

2nd Time -- Clongen Lab: Brucella PCR         (came out negative)

3rd Time -- Quest IgM, IgG  Positive both Brucella IgM & IgG, and Proteus Ox2 , Salmonella(typhoid Fever) all Negative

If cultures are done they have to be left for many weeks, that is probably the test you were told takes 6 wks. 

I think Fry labs also tests for Brucella (they had a Febrile Panel) and MDL I think has a PCR

I think you are  right about that you should not have antibodies for it unless you contracted it at one point or are carrying the disease (chronic). Known to relapse.  Just as complicated as everything else.  I totally agree, what is practiced about having to have a high enough titer to be considered positive, goes against what you read about it.  That you can't base it on that! Doctor have forgotten how to piece all the clues and info together figure things out.

Like if having a fever every day that undulates for years isn't a big enough clue.  I was my idea to do the tests.

Hope this helps.

 

My LLMD said Absolutely NOT ! He said you are immune compromised and you do not want your body to have to fight off anything else. I had no idea. Also when we went to see my mom's oncologist (she had breast cancer), her doc said that even HE could not get the spray mist because he was treating so many patients with suppressed immune systems and could not risk passing it on to them.
So, I guess it's a no for me.

Tropical Sun,

Thank you very much for your detailed post! I have done as much research on this as I could in the recent past and found that this disease (Brucella) grows in natural and UV light. It is one of about 20 different bacteria which do grow in the light.

According to what I read about the light exciting the growth explained why it was so difficult for cattle to get healthy. It is the actual blue light in natural light which excites the growth.

I read somewhere that one doctor treats lyme patients by putting them into darkness, I wonder how much of those lyme patients carry the brucella bacteria.


The US isn't testing much for brucella, if we don't test, we don't have any positive results and thus the disease is "Rare".


Also, brucellosis can be a chronic disease, unlike Lyme disease.

Also, when I searched I could not find a uniform standard treatment, what you provided sounds liks a good treatment.

I hope this works quickly for you and your daughter!

Best wishes.

Sunshine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc1YYJrq0qg

Post Edited (Sunshine20090909) : 12/2/2009 8:41:17 AM (GMT-7)