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Posted 1/23/2011 1:23 PM (GMT 0)
On friday night-- after I had used Teasel very moderately for three days-- my imbalance and dopey head feeling came back with a vengance--- along with some nausea.

Still pain free all over, but feel like I've backslided into that terrible 'head' symptom that caused me to walk into a wall three weeks ago where I remained on the couch for over a week until it cleared. 

I haven't walked into a wall this time....but it's the same sensation.

Head is buzzing and feels hot, ears are ringing like mad, shaky hands too. 

The only thing I did differently was to take the Teasel.....so I have to suspect it as the cause of this relapse or herx reaction. 

Couldn't reach my doctor for advice....so....

.... for fear of my body being overloaded with toxins I stopped taking ABX, vitamins....everything....for 24 hours just to give my body a break and a chance to catch up and relax.  Hope this was a good idea!

Has anyone else had a bad reaction to Teasel ? Could it have caused this horrible head thing to return ????

I know it can be powerful and not well tolerated by some--- and totally ineffective for others. 

That's all I can say right now....need to go lie down and wait for my head to clear .  It took until 3:00 pm yesterday for that to happen well enough that I could walk around.  

Another thought is that the Teasel was just a coincidence.....

....and that the real thing that caused my bad head was just another 4 week cycle of bacteria die-off in combination with the ABX working.

And just when I was feeling better !!!!!!   Jeeze!!!  I'm so frustrated and feeling hopeless.

 

Posted 1/23/2011 4:12 PM (GMT 0)
I have something similar happening to me. I was taking teasel 1 drop a day for a couple months and then ramped it up to 2-a-day. Got a pretty bad herx again and now I've been going up one drop every day. Doin 4 drops/4times a day now. The herx is the worst out of anything I've ever taken. I take that is a good thing though because a herx means you are killing bacteria.
Posted 1/23/2011 4:13 PM (GMT 0)
i can't even think straight.....and i'm tryin to not take pain meds this weekend so they are effective mon-fri....im in hell!!
Posted 1/23/2011 5:40 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Allseeing,
First of all, I am so sorry that you had such a reaction!! Those really s@ck!! I did that on Milk Thistle!

I feel a word of caution should be said here though. Starting & stopping abx will only hamper your recovery - high, continual blood levels of abx are needed in order to be effective.There is also the potential to created abx resistance within you, by starting & stopping abx treatments.

My personal suggestions would be either start (if you haven't already) a really good routine of daily detoxing including dry skin brushing & detox foot or full baths. The most common reason for a sudden increase or worsening of symptoms is an overload of toxins once a person has started their treatment.

Detoxing is really necessary for those of us with tick-borne infections, as our bodies are trying to tackle so very many things all at once, that it really needs some help.

to get back up to the dosage of abx that your doc has you on as quickly as your body will tolerate. As far as any supplements though, I would build back up a little slower, leaving teasel for the last. When you re-start the teasel (as it has helped many members here), do so very slowly - maybe only 1 drop every two days to start? and build up the dosage slowly until you are up to a therapeutic level.

Just a few thoughts that I hope will help.
Posted 1/23/2011 7:28 PM (GMT 0)
I've used teasel and yes, it does cause a herx reaction! Some can only tolerate a VERY small amount. I tried what was recommended (working up to 9 drops a day -- 3 drops 3 times a day) and could not tolerate it. The most I could do was 2 drops 2 times a day. I do believe it helps because of the reaction I had, but it did not CURE the LD. I've thought of getting another bottle of it, but I've already done two rounds, so trying other things now. One bottle lasted several months, and when it was gone I took a break of several months and then did another bottle lasting several months again -- the first time was at the same time as antibiotics and the 2nd time no antibiotics.
Posted 1/23/2011 8:10 PM (GMT 0)
When I first went to the tick borne specialist who found out I had lyme she gave me teasel root tincture and japaneese knotweed tincture to take in the morning and night for 7 days before I did 26 tubes of blood work.

she told me if I had lyme I would get deathly ill from it. I think she had me take it before doing the blood work to bring out what ever would not just show up in blood work.

I'm not sure but I think it hits bartonella pretty hard. i don't know but I did get sick as a dog.

she told me there are a lot of doctors prescribing resveratrol which has Japaneese knotweed in it and people were getting sick.

She said they were both treatments for lyme and coinfections but I got the feeling it was given more down the road after blasting with abx.
Posted 1/23/2011 8:12 PM (GMT 0)
Since the herx goes right to my head and virtually incapacitates me,
I think i'm just going to hold off on the Teasel for now .....assuming Teasel was the culprit.

Traveler...thanks for the 'heads up' on not going off ABX due to resistance factor!

Thankfully I only exempted 2 amox. pills in my effort to feel better....and going back on them has not worsened how my head feels. Won't stop taking abx again!
Posted 1/23/2011 11:19 PM (GMT 0)
You're welcome Cat! We suffer enough, no need to set ourselves up for more - even if it is because we didn't know any different!!

Ahhh - the beauty of all of us sharing like we do!!!

Gotta love it!!
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