Question about heavy metals

Mercury us my menace. From dental fillings and, since I eat "healthy", fish consumption. I had very high levels in the late summer. In fact, I think it triggered my latest Lyme flare back in the late spring. Looking back, I cracked a tooth in half back last March and, since it was back in my mouth, I delayed getting it fixed. It was next to a gold crown and thus was causing an electrical effect that leached mercury into me heavily. Plus, I was eating a lot of tuna and sushi. I think this lowered my immune system and set the Lyme critters afire!

To do a proper mercury test, you have to challenge the body to draw it out into the bloodstream. Mercury is stored away in the CNS and organs and will not show in blood tests otherwise. DMPS is usually used for the challenge. Chelation can be with DMSA, DMPS, ALA, zeolite, chlorella, and even cilantro. Read up on it. Many people used Andrew Cutler 's protocol for treatment though. Other heavy metals- I also had some arsenic (from well water) need other means of chelation. HOWEVER, one of the very best ways to get rid of heavy metals is to sweat them out....exercise and/or FIR sauna are very good for this!

Hope this helps! BTW, B/L, is your moniker a play on the old Madonna song, Borderline?

Thanks for all the information! I only have the white kind of fillings...I assume that's not mercury? I know I had all of this tested before and I can't remember if mercury was a big one or not for me.

Can you do chelation while treating Lyme/co-infections? I know my doctor can and will give me all of this information, but I just like to get opinions from those of you who have actually experienced all of this, and who see doctors with different perspectives than mine.

I'm a little nervous about adding anything else that could make me feel worse - my doctor really doesn't understand the whole HLA DR gene thing (not that I understand it that much better!) but it's starting to look like that's a bigger consideration than either of us has realized, and I'm concerned that the burden of dealing with Lyme, coinfections, having difficulty eliminating toxins, and the whole heavy metals thing on top of it might be more than my body can handle! It's amazing what our bodies do for us, don't getm e wrong, but sometimes I just want to give my poor body a break!

WWJD20- I am using dmps and ala to chelate as this covers most metals ..I cannot tolerate dmsa and not sure if its due to chronic yeast, barin viral issues or what, so i know how it can negatively affect many

well keep in mind i chelated for close to 4 years, not all the time as 2.+ years ago i became quite sick (nothig was working) and it was with elements of viral-lyme-parasites etc. BUT this stuff allw orks tiogether, viral issues seem to prevent metal detox and metal detox releases more viral..its like peeling an onion...you just have to keep lifting layers of toxicity

Then i had cavitations done (april -sept 2010) and it released very significant amt of metals, so I wrongly presumed all my problems were metals and was not treating for any lyme related issues..for the past 2 years and getting sicker and sicker until i just started to put together my eye-brain-burnig leg syndrome with help from others including people here (ie bartonella). Now i think i am making good progress as i have greatly reduced metal load


I think the book Amalgam illness book by Cutler, even thoug it is specfically for metal chelation, is one of the best general health books out there and it covers what has to be supported during chelation and HOW many of the bodies Operating systems work -ie liver phase 1-phase 1; supporting kidneys ; amino acids role particularly taurine which many of us and women seem to be more deficient than men since estrogen displaces)..so my knowledge comes from being a metal head

its ok to chelate and treat lyme as long as your body allows it is I guess the best answer i can give; however if too mush dmsa has incresed or caused yest, then it willa ffect lyme treatment as then dealing with yeast becomes more of a priority. I know when i first had amalgams out the herx and release of metals-crashing of adrenals-thyroid-fungus was al encompassing . It took me 3 months to just chelate myself through this mess. HOWEVER
I do think reducing and eliminating the metal load is absolutely key in killing lyme and all viral co-infections.
I do not know for sure, but our kidneys seem to absorb a lot or a good share of the viral die off and if you are cheklating with dmsa-dmps, they chelate via kidneys so kidneys need a lot of support and it may be hard to do both

edta is very toxic as it chelates everything, all minerals and it does not specfically chelate mercury but it may move it around, ie into brain. I think its mostly lead and cadmium. There has been some talk about whether putting minerals in the EDTA bag will do anything if its mixed togetehr as obviously edta will chelate them..and personally i think its not just that simple as OH lets put all the minerals back in the body and they wil sort it out..it does not work that way..for instance calcium and magnesium wipe each other out..magnesium is said to be mother natures calcium blocker

dmsa-ala-dmps unfortunately are all sulfur and many people on the chelation forum have increased yeast with sulfur, so its a balancing act and amalgam illness talks about this as well, maintaining gut and wbc-neutrophil support while chelating..this is the biggest stress. BUT it has to be dealt with-chelated as the metals do not walk out on their own :)

i am not trying to sound like a know it all, but i do not think modifilan (spelling) chelates. Cutler knows this chelation stuff better than anyone as he is a chemist and knows chemically what things react and work with heavy metals. All these other nutbars-sorry DR K, DR mercola, etc have no clue on chelation, but will gladly sell you their not only useless but dangerous concoctions that they say chelate and do not..

Heavy metals wipe out immune system and at the same time the release of them-heavy metals after amalgam removal keep many of the virals under control. this has been the experience pof many people chelating.as you chelate and reduce metal load, the virals get released. this is what i think happened to me

hi yasser
i am not disputing what you say; i will look at the hubbard stuff and i agree the skin is the safest route of detox as it avoids liver-kidneys. I am not saying infrared does not work as to do would deny what success you are having; i just do not think it will work effectively for everyone maybe even most.

But then who knows, maybe If i would have been sitting in a sauna 4-5 times a wek, i would be better now :)....
the other things thats interesting with what i have going on right now that has become concerning, is my eyes inflame and become severely blood shot and head feels woozy after 15-20 mins or so of sauna and this only came about in last 6 months when i believe bartonella or viral brain bugs with eye issues raised their head

i do know though and i have had many disputes with cutler himself on this that infrared can be both good and bad with heavy metals as i have experienced both. 2 years ago, i could do a good 30 min and feel great; after cavitations its been more problematic

I know infrared helped me BUt it only helped me almost 6-8 months after i had amalgams out. Cutler says infrared can mess with brain mercury-heavy metals. I know I tried it about 3 months after amalgam removal and it give me severe "like my head had exploded" feelings. I had a few instances of this when i took ala too soon after chelation and when i did cilantro which i am pretty sure was mercury being moving into cns-brain

cutler is conservative in what he recommends and thats why he says no ALA in first 3-4 months after amalgams are removed as it can and will move mercury into CNS as it (ALA) crosses BBB. As such he says its the only thing that will remove metals from the brain and other organs.

a lot of us just do not detox heavy metals very easily, (those with hair test showing mercury as very low when in fact its clear the have a mouthful of amalgams and it should be high) maybe its the viral component to our illness as i know some people seem to do better with chelation when they lower viral load.

i think the fact that it was a recent exposure from the 911 responders would in theory make it easier to remove those toxins as theyw ould be in blood and tissue not organs (ie brain) which were likely a combo of everything from mercury to fire redardants to pcbs. Plus i am only guessing, that these responders being mostly firemen were in peak physical shape before hand so likely had no compounding issues like any of us (lyme-viral-parasites-stresed organs-etc)..so again only theory, with chronic lyme and metals, your detox pathways do not work well, so your body will not for lack of a better word passively release metals

i think recent exposures may be easier to chelate-detox than someone who say has been chronically infected with heavy metals, as the metals have taken up spots in organ cells as opposed to just tissue-blood, which a recent exposure may result in.

cutler says when body fills up with mercury-metals, the only place left is brain, so someone who has a heavy load of brain metals is absolutely pollluted at the organ and cellular level.

All I hear is WaWaWaWa (think Charlie brown teacher voice)..I have no idea what ya'll are talking about LOL. Che whating? Oh boy..I am so ignorant on this subject.