I bought some natural bug killers till my appt in 2 weeks. What do you think?

Waverunner,

I know that you are anxious to feel better, but I strongly caution you on throwing all of this into your system.

The herbals you have are very powerful when used properly. I know -- I have used them. They will produce a herx reaction.

However, if you just take them all now, you will have no idea which one did what. Your LLMD will probably make use of these medications, but gradually, one at a time, in a particular succession that supports your other treatments.

It would be very good for you to prepare yourself for a marathon rather than a sprint. More and more LLMD's are finding that low and slow is the proper approach to healing from Lyme -- particularly in cases with neuro involvement.

So rather than using your two weeks to carpet bomb and have all sorts of collateral damage (that's you, baby!), take this time to build up your immune system, and get into an effective detox regimen.

Detoxing (I know, we go on and on about this) will be your best friend during your recuperation. It will make everything easier.

Perhaps you could also get set up in preparation for feeling worse. Set up short cuts for running your life, get your support network set up, lay in some good healthy food that won't require you to cook.

Just some ideas. Wishing you all the best.

Yes, just beginning to detox can cause herx-like reactions. So you are better served by beginning the detox process and begin to clean out the backed-up debris you invariably already have. That way, your body will be better prepared once you throw the treatment arsenal at it after seeing your LLMD. Patience is a virtue with this Lyme business and I have little of it! But I have learned the hard way that it is the best way. You'll find that "edge" where the treatment becomes too much and just a little more than not enough and that is the optimal place to be. And, that "place" will vary as you progress thru treatment!

Hi Guys!! Thanks for coming by.

Okay, WWJD20, I've used grapeseed off and on for about 5 months. With many other things for Candida and fungus switching off. That's when I started using cleansing supps to clean Candida if I had it. At that time I wasn't sure if my coated tongue was as it's not white but just slime with a sour taste and I know you can get that with bugs.

So you started off slower like the rest it sounds. Okay. And thankyou..

Hi Achieving Grace, I understand what you are saying. Thing is, I've been detoxing for 5 months, from a fitness background diet is impeccable. I have been doing saunas, baths I mean.......doxy since FEB 2 and I'm done. I'm going nowhere. I'm real sick, up second day with no sleep, none last night not one hour, and day before 2 twilight hrs.

I've got too many bugs. I've gotta start killing something. I am in constant chronic head brain eye ear discomfort and kept awake for it.

I need to take one then. Since if I herx with it as I'm not now with the doxy, I'll know. Since it wouldn't be a bunch at once then. So that's good advice not all at once and thankyou vey much for that.

I just...........I'm frustrated. I don't sleep, I've got head symptoms galore, I do nothing. Nothing and I cry. It's too cruel to be patient and just keep sitting doing nothing.

I don't cook or get around now. I make soup stretched for a week, lots so I have lunch and snacks of that and pollock packets and salmon and snack on protein I don't need to cook other than dinner.

Cook a pork chop lean, or chicken or fish for dinner. I have brussels sprouts cooking with them. Onion. Quick routine shakey and weak, if not naseaus, I lay while it cooks get up bring to room eat and lay. I have no life. I'm a convalescent now in bed.

Yesterday the sauna first time in a months other than just epsom salt peroxide baths. Too sick to go but did yesterday getting this. I go into store sick and slow and shakey, sit in sauna sick. Walk out like I'm 80, this is how I move so so slow.

I did it yesterday but honestly, I had to give up my home and relocate here from something else I almost healed from, I have been recovering now for 30 months, back to back hit. :(

My mom is down south and home in 2 weeks. I am buy myself sick and in bed. What a life with relentless head brain eye stuff. The only thing that gave me any hope yesterday, was getting started on something.

That's the truth.........thankyou..

Hi Sleepless, I've been taking all the rest for 5 months and detoxing and enemas so..................I'm ready.

(You guys can't like scream through can you?)

I know you are all so so kind and trying to help me. Thankyou so so much...

Hey Yazzer, that's just it, I've been detoxing for over 5 months and 2 enemas a day, so nothings backed up. Seriously. I'm clean, food everything, vit. I'm there. I just got on this board, but I was on another one for about 2 weeks, learned what I needed to thinking I was just detoxing yeast and dealing with mycos but know it's more now, I got the script for that, and I'm just................I've been doing it all you know? Thankyou..

Hi Borderlyme! Well, I want to start with one natural with the doxy then. My body as said is as clean as it's going to get.

That part of my body has a good long start. Even though I'm so sick.

My doctor lol. She................I have no faith in doctors. She is kind enough to let me drive, she went out on a limb rxing ABX for mycos because she knows what I've been through the last 2 1/2 years and how much I know about her community specifically.

We don't have a comfortable relationship per se, but a working relationship. I thinks she trying to show me, she's different in some ways.

She's already shown me, had I been naive, I'd have gotten no help with a few things. Shuffled in the mainstream river so.........

So, with doxy, it feels like a herx. It felt like one. Why? Because all of my symptoms like my blurry eyes got worse. My stuffed cotton like colonies of bugs living in my eye tissue, I feel it, and my heavy lids, got worse. My grinding I'd almost gotten rid of due to less movement in head and body vein bugs travelling got worse. I'm just grind grind.....

So many things back to square one. Toxic hot sweats. Lying twitching, things that had calmed down after the beginning of 2 weeks after the first herx of naseau and visual smoke when I started the doxy at 200 but it calmed.

I think I went too fast 2 400mg on the doxy. My symptoms increased back to what they were when it was super super bad from super bad. Not like a drug side effect feeling make sense?

So, I want to try something, I just.........ug................I'm a sitting duck in major discomfort. I may as well go slow with something you know? One thing?

You guys are so wonderful. I sit on the computer, and lay in my bed. I used to run and run and swim and lite weights for lines, I mean. This is just, no way to live.

I just................I'm by myself, I'm too uncomfortable to not do something to feel I'll make progress with something. It just............I gotta move forward somewhere. I've been doing the other suggestions since Nov. Longer with the food, that's how I eat though more veggie choices but now just what's easy fast and healthy though still protein and fresh veggies and that kind of thing you know?