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Posted 7/12/2012 4:08 AM (GMT 0)
Hi,

I read Burrascano's theory that lyme bacteria migrate from the blood to skin, especially during abx treatment, to hide from meds. Is there any more info about this? What exactly does this mean? Does it mean that the bacteria manifest as boils or pimples, or that they are dormant in the epidermis and cannot be seen?

I'm especially curious about this because I've started the bath detox and noticed I shed alot of skin during the bath. Also, I'm wondering how, if they've migrated to the skin, to get rid of them? Is the bath detox supposed to do this?

Thanks wise ones :-)
Posted 7/14/2012 2:09 AM (GMT 0)
I, too, am wondering if the bacteria is in my skin.  I have been breaking out in facial and hand rashes and tonight my earlobs are red with small, hard to see pimples.  I have worn earings in my pierced ears for years with never a problem and now the pierced holes are constantly getting infected. 
Posted 7/14/2012 9:35 PM (GMT 0)
I had a weird bumpy 'rash' on my forehead and was scaly on the scalp before ABX. It'd be nice to know what's behind that!

Lyme, Bart, or what?

Also, my upper arms still have a bumpy rash that look like mini pimples sort of. And this one is spreading.
Posted 7/15/2012 9:25 PM (GMT 0)
Tickle, I've had scaly rashes too and wonder if they are LD related. I find they actually go away completely with cortaid!? As for your upper bumpy rash, that sounds like it could be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratosis_pilaris Keratosis pilaris. My DD has it and it goes away when she's taking oral probitics and also clears up when we put organic coconut oil on it topically.

Summer16, I read somewhere that LD can cause pimples on ears and behind ears, so I wonder if it's related?
Posted 7/16/2012 2:49 AM (GMT 0)

Hi PennyPru and welcome!

Actually I think it's the other way around..  Our skin is our largest living organ and whatever is in the air gets absorbed through our skin.  Bacteria go hiding in the bones, joints, brain, etc.

I suggest to buy a dry skin brush (natural fiber one such as Bernard Jensen, that's the one I use) and before taking a detox bath, dry skin brush your entire body then get into the bath.  If we keep our pores clogged up, we are keeping toxins inside our bodies.  Even though I am completely well I still continue to dry skin brush my body daily.

Below is one article on how to dry skin brush:

http://www.detoxsafely.org/dryskinhowto.html

Vitacost, Amazon and Iherb sells these brushes:

http://www.vitacost.com/Bernard-Jensens-Body-Brush-Natural-Bristi-Brush

Hope this helps,

Denise

Posted 7/16/2012 3:15 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you Denise. Wow, I really enjoyed that link about how to dry brush. I have a brush and have been dry brushing before the detox bath, but this has helped me even more to understand how to do it. I'm really interested in what Dr. B means by bacteria moves from blood during treatment to the skin, whether he means the LD manifests within the sky itself. I totally agree with you about taking care of our skin organ, but if stuff is rising to the skin, what exactly does that mean?
Posted 7/16/2012 4:08 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the article on dry brushing. I've been doing it wrong - not long enough!

Also, I do have Keratosis pilaris, but this seems to be a rash on top of it that is red bumps and it's spreading beyond the usual Keratosis pilaris area. It could be that it's worsening and spreading. I'll give coconut oil a try.

about what Dr. B. says, I wonder how the bacteria moving to the skin manifests?
Posted 7/16/2012 12:00 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Penny and Tickle,

As you said, it's Dr. B's theory not fact.  I had a friend who was a patient of Dr. B. years ago when he was practicing and he never told her about detoxing.   Just put her on very strong abx, picc line and all.   I don't want to say what happened to her because it's very sad...   I wish Dr. B. had more knowledge about detoxing..  Thus I am not a big fan of Dr. B. because of my friend.

Anyway, from my research, it's toxins that emerge to the skin, not bacteria because our natural instinct is to detoxify but when a body is overloaded with toxins they can't release themselves fast enough through our skin because the body is sick.  Toxins can cause rashes, spots, etc. because toxins are poisons. 

That's why people really need to pay more attention to detoxing, the dry skin brushing, the salt and peroxide baths, the foot baths, sauna, and the list goes on. 

Have you read this article about lyme toxins?  This article explains what's going on much better than I can:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_285/ai_n19170382/?tag=content;col1

And you are welcome for the instructions on how to dry skin brush!   Believe me, when I first heard of detoxing from others, I thought they were nuts!  I said to myself "what in the world does detoxing have to do with lyme disease?"  Made no sense to me years ago...  I guess we live and learn, right?

Feel good,

Denise

Posted 7/17/2012 1:06 AM (GMT 0)
My son too has developed "pimples" on his checks that did not go away for several weeks. This started a wk into his antibiotic treatment. I've been giving him the detox bath and made sure he got his cheeks wet and tried ensure his whole body was relaxing in the bath. The pimples have diminished but he developed a rash on his bottom which brings me back a few years to when he was in diapers and resembles a diaper rash on his bottom (hes five y/o so wasnt too long ago). Curious if theres more I can do?
Posted 7/17/2012 11:47 AM (GMT 0)
Hi LymeMomNYC and welcome!

Glad to hear that your son's pimples went away since you have been giving him the detox baths.  I don't know why he has a rash on his butt.

The only thing I could suggest is using a product that I have used (used it when I had a bad case of poison ivy) and it worked great.  It's called Bentonite Clay Powder (I bought the NOW brand). 

I had the poison ivy on my butt (don't ask why!) and I followed the directions on the bottle and made a pudding like texture (mixing the clay powder and water) and then I spread a thin layer on my butt as well as other areas of my body.  The clay draws out the toxins or poisons and cleared up my poison ivy.

Many places sell Bentonite Powder including Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Now-Foods-Bentonite-Powder-1-Pound/dp/B001MXM1OM/ref=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1342525158&sr=1-2&keywords=bentonite+clay

I never tried the other brands but I see Redmond Clay got great reviews.  Worth checking out.

Denise

Posted 7/17/2012 12:08 PM (GMT 0)
This is very interesting. I have been plagued by a "bumpy" forehead in the past and now for the past year have a rash on my scalp which has now spread to my upper back.

In addition, I now have welts appearing which I attributed to the burbur my husband and I had been using. But this is a month now since we stopped and I still have a welt appearing here and there. Very strange.
Posted 7/17/2012 12:16 PM (GMT 0)
Hi springsjean,

It's definitely worth it to try the clay!  I mixed a batch for a teenage neighbor of mine who is going through the acne stage in his life and the clay helped clear up most of his acne.  He put it on at night, let it dry on his face and slept with it all night, then washed the clay off in the morning.

If you try the clay let us know how it works for you.

Posted 7/25/2012 6:51 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you, Deejavu!  I was starting to get worried that I might have another co-infection. I developed these white head type pimples on my face and neck 7 weeks after contracting Lyme.  I was panicking thinking "here we go again."  Whew!
Posted 7/26/2012 8:48 PM (GMT 0)
Simple question, but does the brushing HAVE to hurt to be effective. My bristles aren't super strong, but my skin does go red when I do it.

Deejevu/Denise, re your reply on 7/17 (just seeing it now). The article didn't pull properly. It went to "search DOT com" site. Can you tell me the exact name of the article or the actual site it appears on so I can read it. I'd like to see this.
Posted 7/27/2012 12:12 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Penny,

Dry skin brushing should NOT hurt yet you should feel the bristles on your skin.  Your skin should turn a pinkish color.  The main purpose is to rid your skin of dead skin and at the same time, get your lymph system going (for lack of a better word).  

Nothing should hurt in order to get better!  No, no, no...

Maybe start off lighter with the brush until you can build up to brushing harder.  I wore out my brushes from dry skin brushing and had to buy new ones but that took a long time.

As far as that article, yes, I see it's no longer there (was there for years).  I believe one needs permission to post it now so if you want to e-mail me I can send you the link.

Hope this helps,

Denise

Posted 7/27/2012 12:20 PM (GMT 0)
Hey kmor50 and welcome!

I'm glad that I was able to help...  Yep, our minds can think terrible thoughts..

I was (past tense) coinfected with ehrlichiosis (CDC positive) and I paid no attention to it because once I read Dr. J's book I realized that the main goal was to build up my immune system which included heavy detoxifying, eating healthier, taking certain botanicals, etc. and by doing that, my own body killed off the strains of bacteria I had.  We live and learn, right?

Denise

Posted 7/27/2012 12:25 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Penny,

When I started dry-brushing, my skin was super-sensitive. I couldn't stand even the lightest brushing. So I began by using a dry wash-cloth and lightly brushing it over my skin, following the same pattern recommended. It helped a lot. Eventually, I was able to graduate to the brush.

So many of these helpful practices have to be eased into!!
Posted 7/27/2012 12:36 PM (GMT 0)
Hi achievinggrace,

Yes, many start off with a dry washcloth and then "graduate" to the dry skin brush..  Funny how we graduate!  It makes me think of when I could not exercise and I started off slow just doing stretching and as I healed, I "graduated" to aerobic exercise! 

As far as dry skin brushing I happened to see this show about dogs and this vet came on saying how important it was to brush the dog to get rid of the undercoat and extra hair in order to let the air get to pores.

He said that by keeping a dog's pores clogged, infection could start as well as other nasty things.  As guess what applies to people also applies to our pets.

I have 2 cats and I have been brushing them (and they love it)!  Wow, it amazes me how much fur comes off!  LOL! 

Denise

Posted 1/23/2014 12:01 PM (GMT 0)
I just noticed I also have dead skin coming out during bath when on antibiotics (or after taking something to detox/boost immune system and get rid of the bacteria).

So this is the toxins and not the bacteria itself?
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