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Posted 12/16/2012 11:31 AM (GMT 0)
Ok so I'm not on abx yet. My first appt with an LLMD is feb 6. Until then, I've been trying supplements and detox baths. The baths were really hard on me at first, so I stopped them for a while.

I used the dry brush last night, but didn't make it to the detox bath. I wasn't feeling well. Today when I woke up I felt way worse. This morning I had tiny raised bumps all over with little white dots poking out. I *think* this could be the toxins trying to come out.

Back to my point...could I be herxing just from the dry brush? I'm just having such a hard time. I'm barely getting out of bed most days, and to be honest I can't really afford to "herx" right now. I have a 19 month old son that needs me! My husband can't take off work much more...

So what the heck do I do now? I really want to be feeling half-way decent on Christmas Day, for my son's sake!
Posted 12/16/2012 12:15 PM (GMT 0)
What type of supplements are you trying? Is it possible you could be reacting or herxing on one of them? I know that I have reacted negatively to a few that should have been helpful.

It's hard to say what could have caused you to feel worse. It could be detoxing from the dry brush or it could also be a flare of symptoms from Lyme or one of the co-infections among other things. Babesia for example, flares about once every 7-10 days.

I have a ton of supplements that I stick to and plan on using a lot of over Christmas. My favorites for energy and overall well-being are magnesium citrate or magnesium malate, ginseng, green tea, CoQ10, methylcobalamin, turmeric (pain), etc.
Posted 12/16/2012 12:25 PM (GMT 0)
   Hi Lymer,

  I also have alot of wierd skin troubles. until a couple of months ago I just thought it was just my luck. but Ive been reading that is a common problem for us lymies.

  its one of the first things I saw a doctor for even befor I was diaged for lyme.

  it was always diffrent so the diag was difrent each time. like poison ivy, MRSA, contact dermatitus. mine seems to be when a holiday or vacation is a focus point.

  It usually lasts for 2-3 weeks on goes away for a few months. no ryme or reason that I can tell, just bad timing.

 one thing I'm sure of is to NOT take any steroids to clear it up, they put me into a two month pit of dispair!

  I hope you still can enjoy a great christmas. my daughter just turned 2 and has figured out presants! but dont know how to wait to open them.

 

Posted 12/16/2012 1:18 PM (GMT 0)
Oh TOM@ocala, I'm so sorry you had the steroid issue too. I took them for a few days about 7 weeks ago and I've been getting progressively worse ever since. You said the pit lasted about 2 months...could this mean I have a few good days to look forward to? I sure miss those!!!

I told my Rheumy's assistant about the rashes and she said she thinks I have an active infection (but they have ruled out lyme based on a negative western blot, the first test, however, was positive for Lyme). The nurse called last week to inform me that my CBC came back abnormal and that I should retest in 3 weeks. They didn't say what was abnormal about it. Nor did they offer any other treatment plan or meds, so I'm not sure what to think.

I've sent several emails and attempted to call many times but no luck getting any answers. Needless to say I'm pretty anxious about the whole thing!

It's funny that you mentioned the holidays, now that I think about it I started noticing a weird rash just before thanksgiving, I was getting red and splotchy after a shower or bath.

Are you currently getting treated for Lyme? If so, are your skin symptoms improving? I sure hope so! :)

I hope you have a wonderful Christmas too! How sweet about your daughter, isn't it a wonderful age? I was a preschool teacher for many years, and I loved the two year old class :)

Summer3,

I am taking probiotics, milk thistle (just one dose so far), Tumeric (on occasion). I have magnesium but have not started it yet. I'm trying to add one thing at a time, so that if I have a reaction I'll know which supplement its from.

I'm also prescribed Vit D, 50,000 IU twice a week. I have prescription pain meds and muscle relaxers to take as needed. I was also taking generic Synthyroid 25 mg/day until recently. I was getting nauseous constantly and I felt like that could have been the cause. Also, I believe that once I treat the Lyme I shouldn't have thyroid problems, but that's just my personal theory (and I hope it's true).

I plan to start taking green vibrance soon, I just haven't had the extra funds for it at the moment. That's why I went ahead and started on a probiotic, I'm having lots of stomach/yeast/bacterial (female) issues.

Sometimes I think it might be easier to list what's NOT wrong with me, it would be a much shorter story. Lol! :)

I'm glad you've found what works for you! It's encouraging to hear. I hope you have a great Christmas full of feeling good with lots of energy!! :)
Posted 12/16/2012 1:34 PM (GMT 0)
Lymer,

I wish I found what works for me! I collapsed getting out of a car last night and I have barely made it out of bed for days lol. The supplements just keep me from being catatonic! :)

I haven't tried green vibrance, but I have used Amazing Grass and Greenspak brands for detoxing from high doses of abx and they seem to help.

Thank you for the Christmas wishes, I hope you have a great holiday also. Hopefully you'll feel a lot better once you go to see your LLMD in February. I know I was so relieved to find a doctor that I didn't constantly have to be on guard with.
Posted 12/16/2012 2:16 PM (GMT 0)
Summer3, I'm so sorry!!! I had a pretty big fall on thanksgiving. I slipped in the hall, and it really took a toll on me. It took me way to long to recover!

I'll have to research Amazing Grass and Greenspak. Are they probiotics? This is the first I've heard of them.
Posted 12/16/2012 5:13 PM (GMT 0)
Okay Lymer and Summer3 - that's enough of falling down!! smhair I was really fortunate that I never got hurt badly all of the times that I found myself face down somewhere. Please do be as careful as you can!

Lymer, I would say that what you experienced wasn't connected to dry skin brushing for the first time - except the little raised bumps- that could have something to do with the brushing. Don't brush today to allow your skin a rest. Start back up tomorrow though please!

At this point I would say that your symptoms are because of not starting treatment yet, and the stress of the holidays ...and the full moon at the end of this week. I know that my symptoms are flaring enough to make me wonder what the heck I did!! LOL! Ouchy.

I've just started using "Kyo-green" - LOL! It's cheap and it was on sale at my health food store is what made me decide to give it a try! It's got barley and wheat grasses, FOS, cooked brown rice, Chlorella and kelp in it. It sure sets my tummy a rumblin with all the good stuff!It has 'prebiotics'. Here is a pretty good explanation of it, although I wouldn't buy it from this company necessarily - nothing against them, but I haven't checked into them either!
www.nutritiongeeks.com/kyo-green-10/kyo-green.html
Posted 12/20/2012 2:29 AM (GMT 0)
I'm not sure about the skin problem, but just wanted to say that I understand about your 19 month old! I have a 17 month old daughter. She is a bundle of energy and I've been in a big flare for the last few days. It is HARD to take care of a toddler while sick w/ lyme. I used to have help, but don't right now. I'm looking to hire someone to come 2 mornings/week (like I had before). Do you have the option to hire a "mom's helper" to play w/ your son and keep him entertained and help around the house some? Or family and friends that could help? When you start treatment, you will need some help.
I wish you a very merry Christmas! I hope you feel better for Christmas Day!
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